Can't Be Broken
Can't Be Broken
Forging Pathways in Sports and Academics: The Remarkable Journey of Olyvia and Priscylla Rutter
Get ready to be inspired as we welcome Olyvia and Priscylla Rutter, two exceptional young athletes, who share their journeys on and off the softball field. Olyvia, fresh from graduating Providence High School, is set to pitch for NYU while pursuing a career in dentistry. Meanwhile, Priscylla, a talented first baseman or designated hitter at Dominican University in Chicago, sheds light on her studies in natural science. They reminisce about their early days at Mid Valley, their leap to competitive travel ball, and even their brief pursuits in soccer and water polo.
Ever wondered how student-athletes navigate the complex college recruitment process? We share invaluable insights on tools and strategies, featuring platforms like Fast Pitch Scout that can make this journey smoother. Discover the importance of aligning your athletic goals with academic aspirations, and how to make the most of your college years, whether playing in Division I or otherwise. Learn from the Rutter sisters' experiences, emphasizing the fleeting yet impactful nature of these pivotal years.
But it doesn’t stop at sports and academics. This episode delves deep into the mental game, underlining the importance of staying true to oneself and maintaining self-discipline. Hear personal stories of motivation, resilience, and the irreplaceable role of family support. We discuss the blend of passion and accountability, overcoming adversity, and the impact of social media on today’s youth. Whether you're an aspiring athlete, parent, or coach, this episode offers a treasure trove of wisdom on achieving success both in sports and in life.
what up, what up, what up? And welcome to another episode of can be broken. I am your host, seamonster, and today I have two young athletes that I'm going to let them introduce themselves and tell a little bit everybody of what sport they play, where they're going to school, where they grew up. So tell us a little bit. We got the Rudder Sisters. Tell us a little bit about yourself, your name, where you guys went to school, where you're going to school, what you're studying sport and a little bit about where you grew up.
Speaker 2:My name is Olivia Rudder. I grew up in Arlita, California. That's where I live right now. I went to Providence High School. I just graduated. This summer I will be attending New York University and playing softball, and I will be pursuing dentistry.
Speaker 1:Dentistry oh nice, okay, and then what position do you play?
Speaker 2:I'm a pitcher.
Speaker 1:And then, who do you play travel ball with?
Speaker 2:I play for Firecrackers, hollywood Workmen.
Speaker 1:Okay, they always have, like the athletic mercado, this, this and that like last names. Huh, that's kind of the way it runs. I like it. It's cool.
Speaker 3:It's just so many no, I know, there's too many yeah, how about yourself? Hi, I'm priscilla um. I grew up in arlita, california. I went to cleveland high school, yeah that's where my daughter went.
Speaker 1:Oh represent.
Speaker 3:I am going into my fifth year at Dominican University in Chicago. I play softball, I play first base or DH and I played for Firecrackers Travieso.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, and then you're studying.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I'm studying right now natural science.
Speaker 1:Natural science? Yeah, okay, and you're graduating this year? Yeah, in a full year or semester, or something like that A full year, yeah, nice.
Speaker 1:Nice. Well, thank you very much for joining me on this podcast. The podcast is literally it's called can't be broken. We just talk about different things that to overcome adversity and help out other people that are listening, that are either similar into sports, or we just talk about all kinds of, uh, different things. But, um, let's talk a little bit about how you guys got started in softball, um, where you guys started playing a little bit, and uh, yeah, just give us a little bit about that history well, we um, well, both of us but I started playing at mid valley and then, which led into eso, girl softball and I played, uh, baseball, I think for like two years.
Speaker 3:And like I started when I was like four or five and, yeah, my dad was like my coach and he basically wanted us to just be in that world and like, thankfully, you know, because that's obviously what it is right now- yeah and just, yeah, we started there and then, as like we got older, it got like more competitive and that's when we started going to travel ball.
Speaker 1:But yeah, did you guys play other sports um I well I soccer we tried other sports.
Speaker 2:I did soccer for like one season like in rec when I was like in first grade, and then I eventually tried like volleyball and soccer again in middle school and then that was like really the only time she also did water polo, I did do water polo one summer.
Speaker 1:That's hard, that was really hard yeah I've never done it, but like I mean treading water she would like cry.
Speaker 2:I was literally crying in the water in the water. I was crying. It was really hard but softball stuck basically yeah yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, uh, softball is a great sport. I don't know why they don't have it in the olymp. They didn't have it this last year, but they've had it before.
Speaker 3:Then they took it out and I'm like I think it's coming in the next 20, correct? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't even know why they took it out. Yeah, like they have some shit like break dancing in there.
Speaker 2:Like come on you know what.
Speaker 1:And then, uh, you guys said obviously your major is dentistry and natural science. What, uh, what kind of led you to choose that major or go on that path or that profession?
Speaker 2:oh, I feel like we've always been introduced like the medical field, like my uncle is a respiratory nurse and his wife is also a registered nurse. Okay, so I've always been interested in the medical field, always like interests me, like taking care of patients and like patient care and like taking care of them. Um, but then in high school, when I joined the medical focus program at my school, I had to volunteer at a hospital and so I had to complete under 200 hours like my junior and senior year. So I volunteered at the Providence Hospital where I worked in like four different units and seeing how like therapists and doctors and nurses take care of the patients, I like figured out that wasn't like for me like direct patient care in the hospital. I feel like that kind of like freaks me out a little bit, I don't know. Like taking care of like patients, like taking care of, like your life is like their life is like in your hands.
Speaker 2:Like I don't know, that kind of I don't know kind of I don't know steered me away towards that. So I feel like I'm thankful for that hospital volunteering experience because that showed me that I don't actually want to go into that. But I was still interested in like health care and so I figured that dentistry kind of interests me. I don't know, I feel like yeah, my dentist I was always interested in like what they do, like in like my mouth, like other people's mouths. I don't know why I don't know why but?
Speaker 1:no, that's cool. And then, uh well, how long is the process? I don't know anything about that. You have to go to then, like, do your four years and then after that there's more school yeah, there's four years of dentist school, dentistry school after your four years. Yes, you're gonna be in school a long time yeah, the sooner I got out of school. That was it. I don't want to go back. I think I took one thing I wanted to learn how to um do sign, and I went back for like a semester.
Speaker 1:But, if you don't use it, you lose it yeah. So and I didn't want to go back to school and I was already way older and I was trying to use it for law enforcement.
Speaker 1:Because I had a person that had got robbed and we can communicate, so I give him my pen, but it took so long and I'm like man, man, how about if I learned it and we can just get like colors out there and height and you know what nationality this guy was, like the basics, if I can learn that? And uh, yeah, I had no discipline and focus at 27 years old. How about you? After some natural science, four years and you're done, or yeah?
Speaker 3:well, first I didn't want to do this, I wanted to be a teacher. And then, I don't know, I, like I always want, I always want to be a teacher and like going into college like I was, like okay, I want to be an education major. And then, like, honestly, like I was, I think I just wanted to like work with kids rather than like actually like be the teacher, since, like, I'm just really good with kids. So I decided like that wasn't for me, because I don't think I want that type of like slow pace setting. So then I steer more towards natural science, which is I finish, I do my four years or my fifth year now, and then I'm going to either go towards a nursing school route, which is just a two year program, or I'm going to do a new try to become like a nursing school route, which is just a two-year program, or I'm gonna do a new try to become like a nutritionist, which is a two or three year program and yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I think I just really like to be in like a either, like a fast-paced, like environment, like if I do nursing and like being able to like make an impact on like someone's life. Like that just means a lot to me. You know it's like kind of like cliche, like to make an impact on like someone's life. Like that just means a lot to me. You know it's like kind of like cliche, like to help people, but and then, or like nutritionist like I really like I'm very much about like my body and like what's going into it, so I feel like that's just interesting to me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I didn't choose my major until after, like my second year, um, coming out of pierce, and I was like, oh and I, basically the way it happened was, um, I knew I wanted to be a cop but I'm like, okay, well, you don't really need a major. I could have gone after high school, kind of deal. But I had this class and it was a sociology class. It was like a requirement ge to transfer over, and the teacher was amazing, like he. He made the class and I was like what the fuck is this? You know, you know, I was like what is this class? What is it about? And I'm like they have this as a major.
Speaker 1:So I'm like yeah sociology, with a minor in criminology, became a cop and yeah, that was it. Now I do this, which is a blessing because I've loved both of the things that I've done in my career, which I played baseball, so now I get to give back in strength and conditioning and mentorship and whatnot. And then, as law enforcement, I grew up in a bad neighborhood and so I got to give back to people that were in gangs or get out of gangs and help out the community. Yeah, I think you guys are on the right path in regards to you know, if you stick with your passion of helping others, you'll find that and then it'll be rewarding. It won't feel like a job and you'll get paid for it and have good benefits and move forward and give back. I mean softball's in your life, so I'm sure that'll have something to do as well of giving back in that. I mean you guys are giving back right now information that we're gonna give out to people.
Speaker 1:Um, I think one of the hardest things for parents and uh kids right now, since we're in this social media craze and uh different styles like when I was growing up there wasn't a travel ball or anything like that so how can parents or kids. Um, get to the next level. What do you guys think is most important? How to go about it? What can kids do? What should they be doing? And then like, at what age you know? I mean there's like eight of you and people are trying to do some shit.
Speaker 1:Now I'm like isn't that too young, you know, but I'm not, you know, I go from the old school. We didn't have that stuff. So since you guys went through it, college played travel ball and all that what is your guys advice in regards to getting to the next level, at what age and how to go about it?
Speaker 2:we both had very different like recruiting journeys, because I had like a little bit more um like resources, because at that point, like no one really knew, I feel like our family, we didn't really know, with Priscilla, like what to do, yeah, but I really think that around like when you're getting into high school, that's when the recording really starts.
Speaker 2:But you should definitely be preparing yourself before that and it's all about getting exposure and like emailing coaches nonstop. You like have to annoy them and bug them and like email them just like all about yourself, all about your softball, like who I am, where I'm from, what position I play. You need to have like a lot of game footage. I feel like game footage is very important because coaches can't always come out like to wherever your state is and then like fly over and watch you play. Um. So like filming during the game, even just like small, like super small clips, that can like really help a lot. Maybe like five seconds, yeah, like super small clips, even like one, even like one play, that helps a lot um and like consistency.
Speaker 3:Obviously, like it could be like annoying to have to keep doing it, but like you're gonna be like happy with the outcome because like it's gonna be like okay, you email them before your tournament and then you email them how you did like and whether like they respond or not, like I feel like that's important yeah, and how do you choose, like, how do you, you know, how do you know that?
Speaker 1:uh, I don't know. I mean, everybody has these big schools, right?
Speaker 1:there's cal state, fullerton, ucla, oklahoma, arkansas all these big schools, because everybody wants to go to these big schools. But how about the smaller schools that nobody knows? How do you find those schools? Do you ask like a coach, is there a directory? Or like, how do you know that? Okay, maybe these schools aren't for me like the big UCLA, or that's not what I want to do, or I don't really care about D1? Or you know some other schools that aren't primetime ncaa schools. I guess you would say how do you find those other smaller schools?
Speaker 3:well, well, for me like coming from someone who does go to like a really a smaller school who, like I've never heard of ever.
Speaker 3:Like, honestly, it's either um, like like, for example, we I used a recruiting website called Fast Pitch Scout and that gave me, like, once you like log in and everything and you try to choose, like, what colleges you want to send to, they give you a list of every D1, d2, d3, every single one. The state what their coaches' names are and stuff like that, and you kind of just kind of, and then also, um, like the coaches could just be walking by your game and like stop by and like see, like, oh, like I wanted this girl and talk to your coach and be like, oh, like, if anyone's interested in going to chicago, for example, like let me know, I'm interested, whatever, and I feel like that's just kind of how my process went. It was like and you also have to know like where you want to be and like what type of setting, like if you want to be more in the city or like out in like a cornfield or something, or in grass, like tree area, like I just knew that, like I would I had to be near a city. Obviously, living here in LA, like I would not be able to like drive two hours to the airport, like I don't know. And I feel like once I was like oh, chicago, like, okay, like, why not Like? And I mean it's been a good experience.
Speaker 1:So for you it was that, that recruiting website or whatnot that helped you kind of locate different schools that were kind of in the city or whatnot. But there's also, like you said, somebody can walk by or somebody's looking for somebody, or your coach knows somebody as well and he gets a phone call hey, we're looking for what. Do you got coming up or whatnot, as a second baseman or pitcher or catcher or whatnot.
Speaker 3:And I also feel like another thing is that like people like have, of course, like these dreams of like going to like D1 and like, of course, that's everyone's goal, like, especially when you're like little, like 10, 11, like you're like, oh, I'm going to UCLA, like that's the goal, and then like, if you really think about it, like there are so many schools out there that like give you such a good opportunity, like of course, you can have like this dream, but like you could be like a star player on. Like you know like, even though, like I feel like d3, d2 might get like a little bit like less like hype, like I plan a very competitive like conference right now where, like I'm seeing, like even better than like my travel ball team, that like you know like there's competition everywhere and I feel like, um, you know like don't only like zone in on like the d1 big schools. You know like every single division that you play in is going to be competitive yeah, I feel like you have to be realistic with yourself, like know yourself as a player and as
Speaker 2:a student like know where like you would belong, like I know I would never make it to UCLA or Oklahoma or like that. I know my plan, I know my strategies, I know where I'm at. So I know and I use a D3, and I'm completely comfortable with that because I'm a very academic student, so I have really good grades, so I was able to get a lot of scholarships from that school and still be happy playing at a D3. And I'm still like in a good state and everything like I still like love the school that I'm going to yeah, I mean, you guys are 100 correct.
Speaker 1:Uh, you have to um, it has to fit like a glove. You know what I'm saying for you, and there's so many factors. It's not just like oh, I want to play d1, okay, great, but uh, how good are you? You have to have a reality of you, know if you can play, and then is the school the right setting, like if you're a 4.0 student and you're wasting your time going to. You know, I'm not going to doggone the school, but let's just say Fresno State, I don't know, you know a state school that doesn't require such a high GPA or studies like that?
Speaker 1:you know, or it doesn't even have your major right. So you're getting recruited by a D1, but it doesn't have your major.
Speaker 2:And like what are you going to do?
Speaker 1:Well, no, I mean you know, after baseball, softball sports, you're going to school, for you know to get a profession, and so you know it's a big choice and so it's got to fit like a glove for you in all aspects. You know, do you want to be close to home, do you want to leave, do you want to be near city? You know education, what do they have? You know, is it competitive league? I mean there's so many factors and 100% you got to choose what's right for you. Sure, it doesn't get the hype, but trust me, I know so many baseball players in different levels it's fun everywhere as long as you're playing, I think to me, as long as you're playing sports yeah, at the college level you're gonna have a blast for four years, like the most of it, because it's literally.
Speaker 3:It literally goes by so fast like just do ball out yeah, literally.
Speaker 1:Yeah, enjoy college. That was the best time. If I could go back, I would go back to my college years, probably like 22 after I'm 21. Yeah, 22. Yeah, it was fun. I mean it was, it was a blast. And then after college, the real world hits and you got to make a living and you know, figure it all out. But, yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3:Well, that's good, um, so email them or send them stuff, um and also um. Just another thing I feel like um, it's also like you don't have to start travel ball, like at like 10u or something you know like she did start like a little bit early, I think, like 10, like end of 10u, 12u, but I started like right after like my 14u season. Like I had a blast in um like rec ball because all the girls I played with were really really good, so like we played it out all together and I I mean I still got recruited to good school like starting my freshman year of high school in travel ball. So I feel like it also doesn't, like you don't need to be starting at such like a young age like you, as long as you do what you need to do to get recruited, like it doesn't really matter like what age.
Speaker 1:I feel yeah, yeah yeah, I think, uh, I mean, I think people need to choose an organization and travel ball that is gonna help them grow rather than just win yeah and maybe it's both, maybe, maybe that organization is winning because they are growing right.
Speaker 1:So I'm not dogging just whatever, but make sure that it's the right fit for you too, that you can afford it, that it's local you're not driving 20-whatever so far because everything's like in Orange County but that you're choosing a coach or something, or coaches or an organization, that you're learning the game, that you're growing as an individual, as a player, uh, that you got good teammates that you're surrounding yourself around them and and moving forward, um, and not get too caught up, like I guess.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I see parents and kids get too caught up on some shit that and I'm like they're not even you know what I'm saying? They're not growing as players, cause I'll have some kids that are 14 and I'm like, all right, uh, you know, you got a bunt. They're like oh, I don't know how to bunt.
Speaker 2:I'm like how do you not know how to bunt like I knew how to?
Speaker 1:but, like at five, you know yeah but, like I don't know, everybody wants to hit home runs. But you know you gotta grow as an athlete and like a coach.
Speaker 3:Look for a coach who, like is not just and not saying that, like some coaches, only want you for your money, but like you know that actually care about you and like your recruiting process and like who actually like cares about the game more than just like you know, like about like the whole winning and travel coaches, your parents, mentors, teachers.
Speaker 1:What are some of the best advice that you've ever received, or something you always think about when you go out? I don't know Any good advice that you can pass on here.
Speaker 2:I really feel like staying true to yourself and not worrying about others because, especially when I was growing up in soft in softball people like I was like a late bloomer Everyone was always like playing at the next big, like travel ball team. People were getting stronger than me, pitching faster than me, and I was always I kind of like got caught up in that. But I feel like just worrying about myself and taking care of my game and not like noise from outside, like ignoring other people, and like just focus on my own journeys and my own goals. I feel like that led me to like my success and I feel like I always think about that, like in school, especially in school and stuff, like not comparing myself to others. That's really important. Just like say true to myself.
Speaker 3:Yeah, really um, I would say something that, like I've learned, like even like until now, is that like it's like kind of broad, but it's like it's never that deep, like I feel like a lot of people get really caught up like in like the mental aspect of the game and like beat themselves up about like either a play or like, and then it like disrupts their entire like game that they're playing in, play or like, and then it like it disrupts their entire like game that they're playing in and like they're either down on themselves or they take that into like the next two weeks of practice games.
Speaker 3:And I feel like, um, when, like you really realize that like it's just a game and like you're now taking it like a game that you used to love, like for fun, like you're now taking it like to a point where it's like you hate it and like you're now like just like me, like just bringing it all down on you. When, like you know, everyone makes mistakes, like you see every MLB. Like some people strike out and will be like every day. You know like and they're not like they're still getting paid to play, like it's never that deep and like once you like play, like for fun. Like you will you're gonna play so much better and like you're just gonna like actually enjoy, like your time playing and it's just gonna be a lot more fun, I feel oh yeah, yeah, don't take it too deep and stay within yourself.
Speaker 1:Be true to yourself. I love that. Um, you know, success comes in different ways, in different manners. But the word success, what does that kind of mean to you guys Like, what does success mean? What does that look like?
Speaker 3:I feel like success is it's like when you create these goals for yourself and like you're able to like it's like very simple, but like when, like you create your goals and like you finish them and complete them like I feel like you get like a joy out of success. You know, and like once you know, like that you have something like in mind and like um, I don't know, like once you like meet that, like you feel like a good type of way and also like you know, like you met your I guess, your potential.
Speaker 1:I don't know, yeah, once you set something and you've accomplished it, you've overcome it, then you've succeeded in doing what you say you're going to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Along with that comes with setting discipline for yourself and creating something like a structure to reach that success, that level. You just have to stay focused on your goals and when you set yourself goals, you'll eventually reach them. And I feel like that joy, like that, like light like comes out. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean discipline is is a key factor in so many different things, because a lot of the times we don't feel like doing something right, whether it be working out, whether it be getting up and doing some. But discipline is doing something, whether it be working out, whether it be getting up and doing some, but discipline is doing something, whether you want to do it or not. Right, and so that's how you get to success. I love it. What is your biggest motivator or drive to success? Or purpose, like what?
Speaker 1:you have goals and you set these goals and standards that you guys talked about. But what is that drive? Like what? What is the purpose? What keeps you going? I know discipline we talked about, but is there an external factors that your parents, is it just yourselves or like what? Is that motivator? What does that look like to you guys?
Speaker 2:I would say definitely my mom, because she has like spent so much time and money and made so many sacrifices for me, like in my softball and academics. Like there's so much that she's done for me and it truly like just pushes me and motivates me so much more, especially when I'm playing or doing anything, because, like she's always in the back of my mind, like she did this, all this for me, all these sacrifices for all these years, and now it's gonna let up to something great. Like now I'm going to an amazing university, I'm gonna play softball there, and it's all because of her. Yeah, like all the camps that she paid for, all my uniforms, all my lessons, all the work, private work on, like that I did on my own, like she was like behind all that and like she really, really motivates me to be great and never give up and especially stay disciplined, because even if I don't want to do something, I know that I have to for myself. Not only for myself, but for my mom also yeah, I mean that is.
Speaker 1:That is a great drive, because I know that's a great way. That's that's what she wants for you, that's what your parents want for you, and the biggest way that you can pay them back is just to continue to do that you know, and and win, and grow and do all that. So I know she's very, very, very proud of you guys both of you guys. So how about yourself?
Speaker 3:I would say, of course, like I love my mother and like she did play a huge part in like motivating me and all this stuff, like doing all these things, but honestly, like for me, me, I feel like my biggest motivator like has been myself, like especially like I feel like it's like you just learn a lot through college and I feel like throughout college, like I didn't like really realize like that I would pull myself out a lot, but like I feel like I have been like my biggest motivator, like waking up, like just, for example, like my freshman year, like I didn't play, but like just like me, like waking up, being like not like quitting or like waking up and like choosing how I want to react to like how like it ended up being for me, which is like totally fine.
Speaker 3:It ended up being for me, which is like totally fine. And like I feel like once I saw that like that summer, you know, like I saw myself literally hitting every single day, working every single day, and like I like, because I know that, like I can do it. And like once you tell yourself and like even though, if it's going to take like forever to do like a couple months, like because we all, everyone wants like instant gratification and I just feel like I don't know like I I have shown myself like my limits and that like I can pull myself out of. I tore my ACL, like I I told myself like, oh, I don't want to go to PT, but like I'm going to PT twice a week because I know, like you know, like it's just like a bunch of like inner self stuff from myself and I just feel like I've been able to like pull that out of me and just like the future me is like what's motivating me?
Speaker 3:I feel yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:You self-invested in yourself and and grew and said, okay, well, I'm here, this is where I'm at, this is where I'm going, and and how do I get out of it and how do I push forward? And that's great, that's. You know. The years in college is, I think, where you find yourself. You know baby over here is going there. I say baby because you're going there, but no, I mean, I look at my daughter and it's, it's the same way. You know, it's like this is her second year and every time she comes back there's change in her. You know she's learned, she's talked about overcoming certain things that we don't know about, and I know that my college years I did the same.
Speaker 1:You know you kind of just figure shit out, because your parents aren't there, you're not living at home anymore and stuff, and yeah, that's totally true. Now you know, like getting to the next level in playing and being a student athlete, what do you guys think are some of the traits that athletes or softball players should have in order to get to that level? Because not everybody gets there and you kind of look and go how come they didn't get there? They were good, right, okay, they were good players, but how come they just didn't make it? Because I know a bunch of players that I'm like, okay, they're not playing anymore, why, why didn't make it? Because I know a bunch of players that I'm like, okay, they're not playing anymore, like, why, why didn't?
Speaker 2:they get to.
Speaker 1:D1, D2, D3, whatever, or become student athletes.
Speaker 3:What do you think are some? Of the traits that people need to get to that level. No, go ahead.
Speaker 2:I think time management is really important because I know for myself like I had to go to school and then I had to go to volunteering, and then I had to go to school, and then I had to go to volunteering, and then I had to go to a lesson and then I had practice, like there's just a lot of things that I had to do on like my everyday basis and I feel like I learned a lot.
Speaker 2:I learned the hard way about time management. Um, like I know I'd fall behind in school and like, and then I had to like get back to it. And that was like a learning lesson for me that I really had to focus on my time management skills and like take advantage of, like the extra, like 30 minutes that I have like at school or like at lunch or before school. When I get there super early, that's like the time to like do my homework and I have to find time to go outside and go hit, and I have to go find my time to go pitch. Like I made me like I've had like a, like a structure now, like I had like a routine that I got used to and like, yeah, it was really hard. I got really tired all the time because I was staying up late doing homework. After I just had my four hours volunteering and had to go to like a softball volunteering then and then to go to a softball volunteering thing and then a pitching lesson. But that was really important for me to learn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no. Time management, I think is crucial. I mean, you have so many things going on with school being a student athlete.
Speaker 1:college actually teaches you that even more because, there's no bells and teachers are putting up some stuff and you've got to find whatever's going to work for you to putting up some stuff and you're, like, you got to find whatever's going to work for you to study for a test that you're going to have in two weeks. You know, there's not, you know, and it's different. I know college is different than than high school or middle school or just general before going to college. But um, yeah, how about yourself?
Speaker 3:I would say you need like accountability, passion and like, okay, let's just go with that.
Speaker 1:No, that's super true. Accountability.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, like I feel like you have to hold yourself accountable, like again, like for practicing, like on your own, like no one's gonna be like the best, like when you just go to like your two practices a week, you know and like you're not putting in like your own work on the side, or even like working out or anything like that, and like I feel like some people like just kind of hope, like you know, like, oh, like I'm just gonna do good, like no, like you have to put in that work, you have to hold yourself accountable, you have to make sure that you're doing what you have to do and like that's how you become like great and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:And also just like passion I feel like because when I was playing too like really good players that I'm playing with, I'm just like how do you one? But like you know, like unfortunately, like some people like fall out of the love for the sport and like maybe they make it seem more as like a chore, which is, like you know it's crazy, because like they're really they'll be good, you know. But like if it's really like not like your passion, like you're just doing it because like your parents are forcing you to, or like because you don't want to let them down, or anything like I don't know, I feel like like you have to really come to a realization because it is I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. No, you have to have that passion, you have to find it. And I think that's kind of like when I was growing up I loved baseball and I would get up and go outside and play, and then I'd still have practice that day and then I'd go inside and if I had a video game, I'd play baseball in the video game. I'm like what the fuck? I was obsessed pretty much the word is obsessed.
Speaker 3:You know, I was obsessed in not a bad way, but in a way that I wanted to learn and grow and be the best um oh, I also have another one yeah, um, holding, holding, yeah, holding yourself like responsible, yeah, I guess, because, um, that's like I feel, like in the sport, like a lot of people like will, if they like, let's say, like the game doesn't go their way, or something Like a lot of people want to like, either like put someone to blame or like anything, or like try and blame like their own errors or something that they did wrong on other people, when, like in reality, like again like it's just a game and like I like again like it's just a game and like I feel like when you hold yourself responsible, like for things, I guess that's accountability, but like, um, I don't know like you need that to be playing, because like you can't like go home and like you're almost like, oh yeah, you're so right, like it's not, you like no, like sometimes it is, and like that's okay, like you need to like you need to like be real with yourself, you know no, I mean, that's the only way you change and grow.
Speaker 1:Actually, the only way that happens is through accountability and responsibility. You know, if you mess up, you say, hey, I messed up, you know, um, and that's how you learn. But a lot of people are so scared to actually criticize themselves or be aware of that or, like, take accountability. A lot of people blame the umpires or their coach or something, it's just like you know, if it's somebody else's fault, somebody else's fault, that person then needs to take accountability. That's how you grow, actually that's.
Speaker 1:I have this book and it says before anything happens, you need to take accountability you know, before any growth happens, before you learn, before you move forward, before you you overcome, accountability has to be number one. So that's great. Yeah, if you guys could have done something differently, what would you guys have done Anything different? Like you know, the recruiting process, getting to who you've got to be started later. I don't know anything in regards to sports that you think, man, I wish I would have done this. You know, maybe more strength and conditioning with me? No, I'm just kidding. No, anything you know like started earlier doing that. I don't know Anything.
Speaker 3:Well, unfortunately, I have a couple of things. Okay, good. Well, one like okay, this could obviously be like so obvious. Okay, this could obviously be like so obvious. But like, just like doing better in school, like doing better in school is going to give you more opportunities. Like, of course, like playing well, but like when, like just for an example, like she's going to NYU, like that's a really good, like top school, like education-wise, and like she's obviously also going to be playing like really good softball, but doing like what you can in the classroom, like, obviously, student athlete, that's the whole point, you know. Like, and that I mean it changed my perspective in college, like that's when I started doing better in school and like again holding myself accountable and stuff like that, like that's, I don't know. I feel that's a huge factor, even though I'm sure, like people are like the like, of course, school is important but like I don't know like I.
Speaker 1:I guess I didn't really care, but they don't really like. Oh, I got a 3.1, but yeah, but a 3.5 could open more doors you know, every little point because I know, uh, some kids that I trained, um, they wouldn't be going where they're going, which is the claremont colleges here, if they didn't have a 4.0 or a bit, or higher't know how that works, but if they had a 3.8, they wouldn't even that door wouldn't even open.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So those doors open up because you have that. I know some colleges only recruit you if you have this GPA and then you're also getting to look at other colleges. So now you have more colleges, more choices, more opportunities.
Speaker 3:Yeah, other college. So now you have more colleges, more choices, more opportunities yeah, yeah, 100, and also, um, I would also say, probably just doing more research, like you can find so many things on the internet like camps, um, new trial ball teams. If, like you feel like you're stuck, like there's tryouts every august, like that's when everyone's trying out for other things not that I love my trial ball team, but, like you know, like just doing more research about like camps and like what schools I actually like really wanted to do, I feel like I just got kind of caught up in like I don't know, like other things and, yeah, and probably probably like more like strength and conditioning. I feel like that's like a huge factor, like, yeah, like just like the things that even like we do in here, like I'm like, oh yeah, like, yeah, I know this is going to help me better my game, yeah it's a totality of things.
Speaker 1:To be a student athlete. You have to obviously go to school, get good grades, you have to have a skill level of softball and everything hitting, from fielding, hitting and running and all that. But then you have to eat. Well, you have to sleep well and you have to do some strength and conditioning.
Speaker 2:And it's a totality of things to be that that athlete at that level, yeah, how about yourself? I would say like strength and conditioning more, like keep like even like workouts at home. I could definitely look something up, like on the internet, like on youtube, and like find like an easy workout to do like at home. Yeah, um, I didn't really start getting into working out until like last like year or something, two years, um and I feel like that would have helped my game a lot early on, because it's not just about like making sure I'm hitting and pitching at home. It's more about like strengthening myself to actually grow and not just like work like practicing on the same thing every single day. I need to change something and like actually make myself stronger so I can actually get better at pitching and hitting, make myself stronger and get higher velocity and like my exit velocity when I'm hitting. I feel like that would have helped me a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, not only you know I preach obviously a lot this is what I do strength and conditioning here and endurance. But not only is it going to benefit you in that way, but hopefully keep keep you injury free. You know some of the things that we do here with loading and movement. If the body hasn't done that before and you're doing it on the field, you could get injured Like oh, my ankle rolled. But if we've done some stuff here to strengthen your ankle and the tendons and things around it and you do roll your ankle somewhere by doing something, your ankle should respond and go like, okay, I just rolled it, but it's not that bad. And so people don't realize how important it is sometimes. And obviously, if you're injured, you can't help yourself. You can't help your team.
Speaker 2:Nobody's looking at you.
Speaker 1:You might have a scout or somebody looking at you that day and if you're not on the field, because you're injured then what? So I think that's the most important part that I do. I always preach strength, condition and endurance, but the reality of it is that is what I'm trying to do is keep people on the field, you know, make sure that they're playing and helping out themselves and their teammates. What do you guys? Do you guys have a favorite, like a quote or anything?
Speaker 2:I think mine is. It's a quote by my favorite artist. Her name is SZA.
Speaker 1:SZA. Oh yeah, Isn't that? Is that the singer?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's the one with sza yeah okay, she's good um, the quote is some people are gonna hate you for no reason and you're gonna shine regardless. And that is actually my favorite quote, because there have been like so many, like a few coaches and even parents that, like like many coaches, have like told me to my face I'm not good enough and like that like really hurt me, they brought me down, yeah, but, um, I feel like I came back from that and it made me stronger as a person and as an athlete because, um, like, they've doubted me and like talked about my back and like that's obviously hurtful to hear and I'm like 14, 15 years old.
Speaker 2:I'm like, okay, wow, thanks yeah but, um, I think I worked like I worked like outside, like I worked like on my own at home and like they didn't know that, like I kid, like that they didn't know that. That really like affected me the way it did and um, that's good.
Speaker 1:No, no, good, good, no. I mean, you know, I I had the same situation at one point and I was in your shoes, a little bit older. I was told I wasn't good enough to play. And I'm like, oh my god, it hurt me because I had actually always been really good. And, um, when I got told that I didn't know what to do, you know, and obviously you're like shit, you, there's a lot of emotions going going on and, uh, so what I chose? I talked to a friend of mine. He says well, you can choose to try to be the best then and beat that person and win that position. And I did. And because of that which I know it hurts, right, it hurts to hear those things, especially at a young age that you were at.
Speaker 1:But look where you're at now, right, Exactly that you were at um, but look where you're at now, right, exactly, and I think I think sometimes we need to hear that. But also at that moment and even now, as as you sit here, it's hurtful, but look where you're going, right and and some of the things that you're saying, stay within yourself. Who cares what other people think? And be your own light, and all that. That's amazing. That is amazing. I mean overcoming adversity.
Speaker 3:That's that success, you know yeah I would say that kind of goes into mine. Um, I don't I don't know who said this, but um, somebody, maybe you yeah, I made it up yeah, there you go um, it's like, um, it's.
Speaker 3:The quote is like when you change your perspective, mirror, that's when miracles happen. Like, instead of why me? Like why not me? And I feel like that's like that just like goes into like mentality of the game and like, just like in, like your real world, real world, um, like, when you change your like, I feel like I've also changed, like my perspective this way and I just feel like, like, when you change like your mentality of like why do these bad things happen to me? Or like it could be like anything like in the world. Like why does this have to happen? Like, oh my god, like why are these people talking about me? And like why do they have to say these things about me? Or anything like that.
Speaker 3:But it's like it's how, um, how you like go about it. Like are you gonna pout about it every day and like throw a fit because? Or, for example, if you're not playing, are you gonna like cry every night? No, like, what are you gonna do about it? You know, like it's like how you choose again, like you have a choice every day, like what, what you want to do, how you want to react to things, how you want to look at life and I feel like that's when good things start to happen, like once you start changing how you see life and how you just see yourself and everything like that. I feel like that's seriously like when all good and positive things are like going your way and like again, like how you overcome that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no, I mean 100. Perspective is everything how you see things. You know you could. You could definitely see things in the worst way. You can see things and go, okay, well, this sucks right now. That's, it is what it is. But, um, I'm gonna make the best of it and I'm gonna change my perspective because I'm gonna learn from it. I'm gonna grow, just like you did and just like we all pretty much have have done at certain situations. But, yeah, changing your perspective and accepting where you're at right now and seeing where you can go by changing that perspective is is is most important and like being able to like overcome that.
Speaker 3:You know like and like that. I feel like that, just also like tests, like who you are as a person. You know like it's, it's like are you gonna. You know like it's gonna make or break you and like you know like, why, why me Like, why not me? You know like, come at me. You know like I can take anything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, meet me outside. What's that one? Catch me outside. Catch me outside.
Speaker 3:How about that?
Speaker 1:How about that? My favorite quote is win or lose, hit the booze. No, I'm just kidding Win or lose, hit the booze. There's actually a story behind that. My brother told me when he was playing minor league ball he had just gotten drafted and he went out to minor league ball in Iowa and there was this third base manager, coach, and he rolls up this is like short A ball, what they call and he rolled up from the flight right to the field. They give him a uniform hey, we'll get you set up tomorrow. He's leading off playing center field. What the fuck? You know?
Speaker 1:He comes in game time and the third base manager is like this big burly guy with some big chops, looking like Cole Cogan, right. So he steps in and he's all shit, I don't even know the signs. I don't even know the signs. He calls timeout, runs over to third base and he goes coach. What are the signs? What's the seal sign, the bunt sign, like what? And he goes son, I have one rule Win or lose, hit the booze. And my brother's like okay, welcome to minor league ball. You know that always sticks with me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a good one, mine's well, for me personally, I'm not the fastest, I'm not the strongest, but there's no way you're going to outwork me.
Speaker 3:It's just not going to happen. That's a good one.
Speaker 1:I might not beat you at certain things, but there's no way You're going to die before me. That's the way I look at things. Fuck it, we're running 100 miles. Okay you're probably going to get there first, but let's go 120 then Well fuck, I can't do it, that's right.
Speaker 2:Let's fucking go I don't know, I just feel like I can't be outworked.
Speaker 1:But I had to be that way because I'm a grommet, I'm short. I always dog on myself. I'm not that short, but I am short for baseball. But I am short in life because I fucking still did what I needed to do to get where I wanted to be. I worked hard. Nobody outworked me. I had to work harder than anybody else because I didn't have the best talent. I didn't have everything that popped, but there's no way you were going to beat me. I found a fucking way to get it done. Didn't you have most stolen bases? Yeah, that's a dubious honor for jc, but yeah, the most stolen bases in the state of california for junior colleges.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's exactly because the coach told me I wasn't gonna play, and all this shit and I was like, well, how, what do I need to do to watch me on the field? Watch me, yeah, exactly. Uh, by the way, shout out to coach bob lefrano, who's an amazing, was an amazing coach, an amazing person, human being, who just always told it the way it was. So I like that. I've had a couple different coaches just make a big difference in who I am as a person, more than anything, and I credit them that they made me a better player, but at the end of the day, they made me a better person. So, yeah, if somebody would have been like, oh, you're good and just kind of babied me out.
Speaker 1:You know it wouldn't have changed and it hurts for sure, like I don't know, I cried on my way. I had a vw bug, um, old school not these like, uh, the newer ones that you know the old school bug where the, the front of the, the thing opened up. Oh yeah, um, and I drove, yeah, I drove, no ac and uh, and I was crying. And I got got to, I was living with my brother, nagura, and uh, I thought my world just ended.
Speaker 1:You know, like my career, everything like what the fuck happened to me, but actually was the beginning of something better greatness yeah to something better. What do we got? Oh, we got social media. Obviously we're in this generation of social media with TikTok and all kinds of stuff, snapchat and IG and whatnot. I didn't really grow up on that. So what do you guys think about it? Like, what do you guys think about social media, the pros, the cons? And then how do you guys go about dealing with that? Like, before you guys post something up, what are you guys thinking about.
Speaker 1:You know, just tell us a little bit about that stuff.
Speaker 3:Honestly, I don't know. I feel like social media can be like good and bad, like sometimes. I just feel like social media can be like good and bad, like sometimes. I just feel like it's kind of stupid sometimes because, like we, everyone's like sucked in on it. And it's like for what? Because then, like you don't like touch some grass, you know like I don't know, you get like really caught up and but like it also could be like super good for like. For example, like I've seen so much like this was. I feel like I mean good for like. For example, like I've seen so many like this was.
Speaker 3:I feel like I mean, unless it was like when I was playing like travel ball, like everybody now like has a softball page and like has all their videos. Because, like you have to be careful what you post, because if a coach I heard that someone posted like they were committed to a d1 school, they posted with like a solo cup or something, drop the offer, like that's over, like you don't get that offer anymore, and so I feel like it's like good and bad and like also. So it's like good for like if you like use it properly. Yeah, I feel, but like also it's bad because I feel like it's just like everyone just gets caught up in it and like you like worry so much about, like, what other people think about you and I literally I feel that's like the worst thing about it. Like you just need to like detach sometimes, yeah, like unfortunately social media has like taken over like our world.
Speaker 2:But yeah, yeah everyone like compares himself on social media, like, like in all aspects, like, like by their, like, their image, their like sports, like everything. It's like everyone compares themselves and it's like everyone's like behind a screen. I feel like that affects people like poorly, like mentally and like physically sometimes, um, but it can be good for multiple reasons.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I mean I I think for me like it really helped me for my business, because I run it out of my house right. So it's not like I'm getting people driving down and saying oh, like oh look let's see how that gym looks like, or that trainer, or something.
Speaker 1:So it's really helped with, uh like making videos and then you guys post in. You know, some marketing is a little different, which is really good, um, but yeah, you can't. I like it for entertainment. I like to look at like tiktok and like see people do some crazy shit. It's pretty funny, uh. But then you also get fed that algorithm stuff, like if you click on something real quick, next thing you know it's like just throwing everything at you and like, fuck, I just wanted to see this couch real quick throwing furniture at you and let me, I don't want to see all that anymore. You know it's like you hold on it for like three seconds. You know it's like, instead of just swipe up, next thing you know you're getting all that feed, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So but it's cool because you can also learn Like. I didn't have that, we didn't have YouTube or any of that to learn how to swing or steal a bass from different people. You could take something from like you can have something on your phone, literally wherever you're at, and learn something. I know that I put a showerhead in my upstairs shower. It was leaking. I'm like shit, I don't know how to do it and I went on YouTube. I got the brand and typed in putting in this brand showerhead.
Speaker 2:It's like the guy's walking you step by step.
Speaker 1:I'm like shit, this is cool showerhead. It's like the guy's walking you step by step. Yeah, that's cool, so there's really really good usage. But I think you guys also mentioned that it could be dangerous, um, by comparing yourself or putting something up that a coach or a university sees and you're just having fun. But it really can take your scholarship away or something, because, uh, they don't approve of it, so it's. It's a hard thing to balance, especially for you kiddos. I'm gone from that, right I posted some dumb shit.
Speaker 1:I don't really care. I was like I'm not going to get fired. Who's firing me? Myself, you know. So then, but also I got to be careful because I have, you know, two beautiful daughters and family.
Speaker 1:And I have respect for myself, but sometimes I get into, like, what olivia says just be yourself and be genuine. Um, yeah, um, what else we're talking about here? Let's see. Um, well, so you guys are going to school? Boom, any other advice like you guys can want to share with, like, um, people going to college, or kiddos or um, I don't know anything else that you guys that we haven't talked about, that you guys may want to share? Um, like, we're here to obviously help others. When they listen to this, they can take something out of it and go like, wow, I didn't know that I can do that to get where I want to be, or to get to this position or anything else.
Speaker 3:Um do you?
Speaker 2:have some advice for people going to college, maybe also oh yeah, that's right yeah yeah, well, one thing I can talk about listen, but
Speaker 3:also I feel like also another thing, like in soft ball, is to stay open-minded as well about like opportunities and like, again, like what people tell you, because, like you may think that someone's like critiquing you, um, but really like they're just trying to make you better and like don't like make them the villain when, like they're just trying to help you.
Speaker 3:And then also college, um, okay, I would say like, if you're debating to go, move out of state, move out of state. Like that is, I feel like, the best way to find yourself, be independent. You become, like this whole, like new human and like I don't know. And like you get to like visit, like you're only going to be there for four years and like you're only this age once, like why not go to another state? I mean like, if you're like if you really need to be home, like that's okay, like why not take the chance? Like you don't know, like test yourself, like you don't know how it's gonna be, and if it's literally so terrible, then go back home, you know, like that's always the option. But like I feel like, um, I don't know.
Speaker 3:Like I feel like yeah because I feel like that's good. Also, let's see, um, just maybe do your research for sure on the school. Like, don't just be like, oh my God, like this school and like commit. And then it's like, oh my God, wait, it's like in the middle of a cornfield somewhere.
Speaker 1:Like I'm going to die. She has something with cornfield. Huh. She said she's either the city or the cornfield, like it's in the middle. You're not going to live next to a cornfield, huh, no.
Speaker 3:No, you want to be a city girl. Yeah, like, at least like something like I can I, I guess the cornfield is cool you ever seen?
Speaker 1:uh, what is that movie? Children of the corn no, but I don't think I want the old one. There's a new one I think so yeah it's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, it scares me children of the corn because it's scary, like I, like in chicago. It's like either like city and then it's like you drive like Because it's scary, like in Chicago. It's like either like city and then it's like you drive like five and it's like you have like one like grocery store in 30 minutes. Like what are you going to do? Like I mean, I guess you can look at the stars, but like I don't know, you can look at the stars, oh.
Speaker 1:I mean, you can see the stars there.
Speaker 3:actually, yeah, exactly, we have a cabin.
Speaker 1:We go up to the cabin and if you turn off all the lights there, I mean there's so many, it's beautiful. You see satellites moving too and shooting stars here. You can't. You can't see anything, yeah. But, yeah, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3:Like, not like a permanent spot.
Speaker 1:Like maybe for temporary yeah like I'm down with that.
Speaker 2:But no, yeah, don't go to the cornfield. How about yourself? Um, I just remember to always have fun. It's just a game in the end. Um, don't take it so seriously. Um, I feel like I just had to remember that sometimes because, yeah, it gets hard and coaches get hard and like mean, but they're just trying to push you to like be great, like you can also like be great and improve yourself, but also have fun, like spend time with your friends. You're only this age. Once it's going to go by so quick, like now I'm already leaving across the country to go to college and like how would that happen so quickly? But I feel like I just learned to have fun, like the last couple years, and like, just like you know, it's okay, it's always going to happen. Like something's bound to happen, you're going to lose, you're going to fail, you're going to not hit well one day or for two weekends straight. Like it's going to happen, it's okay. So just stay positive and have fun. I feel like I tried to listen to that recently.
Speaker 3:I would say, yeah, definitely, have fun and appreciate your parents feel like, um, I don't know, like again, like going to college, like I miss my family more, like every year. But I feel like just appreciating them, like don't brush them off Like they're the ones obviously you're playing good, but like they're the ones making the sacrifices for you and like there's especially like for girls in softball or in any sports, girls like, um, there is like such a small percentage of girls going to college, like playing softball I mean, it's grown over the years or, yeah, any sport. But like you know, like just appreciate that your parents are like making the sacrifice and even putting you into this world because, like I don't know, I feel like becoming an athlete as also, like you know, like going into a job even. Like you know, if you're an athlete, like you're gonna put in, like your even. Like you know, if you're an athlete, like you're going to put in, like your work, like teamwork, you're going to have discipline, you're going to work hard. Like you're not going to like do a, like you're not just going to like not care and like half acid or anything like that.
Speaker 3:Like I feel like it's just, I don't know, like when you're an athlete and I also like I don't know, I also love like just being an athlete because, like and I also like I don't know, I also love like just being an athlete because, like, you know that whatever you're going to do in the next world, like, you're going to do at your best because you literally built yourself up to doing that thing like for 22 years. You know, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean all right. So now I'm going to give my piece of advice to you ladies. Okay, the OG advice. No, I mean go out there. Well, you're obviously almost getting done with school and whatnot, but to Olivia would be. I think college is a time to network Like it really is, where you meet probably people that you're going to talk to more than you did in high school you know, and they're in college because they're career-oriented.
Speaker 1:And so you never know, when you're a player on your team or somebody in your classroom or somebody else that you talk to, that you have their info, that you need a job or that you need a reference, or that your paths cross and they need something. And here you are now doing something that you didn't even know you were going to do, based on this network. And so, yeah, have fun, meet as many people as you can, network as you would. You know, I hate calling it that way. It's just kind of being open and meeting people, but it really is.
Speaker 2:Networking like life is about that it's like connections yeah, it's who you know a lot of times, right like if you know somebody you're like.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you know, uh, so meet as many dentist people you, you can. But it's true, have fun. Young ladies in college this year, you guys are taking off this week, I think. Thank you guys very much for coming on the show, of course, for offering great advice.
Speaker 2:Thanks for having us.
Speaker 1:For all the great advice that you guys have given. Talked about yourselves, opened yourself up. You guys were vulnerable, which is really good. You gave great advice and is there a way that, if you guys want to give it that people, if they wanted to reach out, if they had any more questions, do you guys want to give your IG or anything? Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3:My Instagram is Rudder O-L-Y V-I-A R-U-T-T-E-R and then my Instagram is Priscilla Rudder P-R-I-S-C-Y, l-l-a, r-u-t-t-e-r. Maybe look on her account. You'll probably find me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right one account will find me yeah well, good luck this year, obviously. Well, good luck this year. Obviously, I'll keep in contact with you ladies. Have a great season, come back and see me when you guys are home. Yes, whether to say hi, whether to train, whether, whatever, I'll be following you guys. You're graduating next year.
Speaker 3:Like this, coming spring Spring.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool. So that'll be really really cool and exciting. Um, it's not a goodbye, but it's, I'll see you guys soon. Um, thank you so much, really appreciate it, and um can I say one more thing?
Speaker 3:yeah shout out caesar, go go to his strength and conditioning, let's go. We work hard in here and you see the gains. Oh, thank you so much I appreciate that.
Speaker 1:I'll give you the money later for that, all right? Um, no, uh, thank you, appreciate it. Uh, it's always a good, a good thing to have people that want to come and get better.
Speaker 1:Um, that I don't have to push them I mean I think that's one of the traits that I would say like we talked about, traits that get you to the next level is like if your coach needs to push you to be better, there's a fucking problem, and so I've never pushed you. Ladies, you guys have always come here and worked hard. I've learned from you guys, so I appreciate that. I learned from everybody who wants to be here and work hard. Yeah, and nothing but the best of luck growing.
Speaker 1:And you guys have my number. Do I have your number? No, but I'll get it anyways, and she's like the go-to right in between. Olivia is, but, uh, you guys can always call or text for anything. If something happens, if you need advice, if, uh, you need, you know, cheer up a little bit, or you know you need me to get on your ass and make sure that you're taking accountability, yeah, and you're having a different perspective right and understand that all, all will pass, whether they're good or bad, all things pass anyways. Okay, I appreciate it. Thank you very much, everybody for listening. I appreciate your time. Thank you very much. If you guys want to reach out to me, I'm at UAG fit and remember you can't be broken.
