Can't Be Broken
Can't Be Broken
Unlocking Personal Growth: Harnessing Self-Acceptance, Divine Connection, and Love over Fear with EA Essence
What if you could unlock the power of self-acceptance, and use it as the key catalyst for personal growth, all while maintaining harmony with the universe? We're about to take you on a journey that explores this very possibility. We uncover the dichotomies within us, the light and the dark, emphasizing the importance of total self-acceptance. Diving deep into self-evaluation, awareness and the power of delaying gratification, we explore how choosing purpose over pleasure can be the cornerstone of transformative personal growth.
Our conversation extends beyond self-development into how emotional wellbeing and a divine connection can drastically influence business success. I share my personal insight into the changes I saw when I prioritized mental health in my business framework. We also touch on our relationships with higher powers, the concept of karma, our belief in the universe and how a quality life transcends physical lifespan. You'll hear our thoughts on how love trumps fear as a motivator and how it should fuel our journey towards our goals.
In the age of social media, we explore the power of intention behind our actions and how these platforms can be used for positive influence. We consider the potential of personal branding, and discuss the delicate balance between personal goals and our consumption of social media. Sprinkled throughout are reflections on physical fitness, the dangers of comparison, the role of therapy, spirituality, religion, and more. We wrap up with a light-hearted discussion on fashion, music preferences, and the importance of expressing our roots. Join us for this enlightening discussion.
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Speaker 2:We were doing that. We weren't doing some low vibrational shit, we weren't out drinking or you know, not talking shit about people that drink, but we weren't doing something that was not serving our higher purpose, let's say. But honoring that side of us and that goes with and I know we spoke about this yesterday briefly it's like acceptance of ourselves, the good things and the bad things, because it's those bad things that really a lot of times drive us to try to be better. But honoring where we were or are at in those areas of our life that maybe aren't the best. It could be anything, it could be our weight, our physical appearance, but accepting it. And then I think, once we can accept ourselves in totality, like that, that's an alignment with the universe, right?
Speaker 2:What we talk about, the yin and the yang, the light and the darkness, there's always polarity in the universe. Well, we are no different because we are part of the universe. We are actually made up of the same things that the entire universe is made up of, you know, and molecules like physiologically speaking, right, and so we are of the universe. So we have that dichotomy within us. We have that within us, and so if we can honor that, I think we're more at peace with ourselves and how we show up in the world, in our relationships, in our friendships. You can accept that. You know what I don't really like this part about me, but I accept it. But I'm going to work to change it and still kind of honor it. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like you need both of that.
Speaker 1:No 100, like you just said right now. You know I'm not talking shit about drinking and that's true. I mean I drink and people will be like, oh, you're always preaching. Maybe you know other people will be like maybe you're always preaching and doing this and look, I see you drink and whatnot. And the reality of it is that I choose to do that. I enjoy a whiskey drink, I enjoy having fun letting go and doing and whatnot. But I also enjoy the other stuff and to me it's did. I earn it and I have a different way that I go about when I drink or when I don't drink. So I have control of it rather than it was controlling me when I was using it for something.
Speaker 1:One and two you know everybody has to live the purpose of what they want to do and how they want to live. At the end of the day and nobody's judging I'm not judging anybody who does or doesn't or how they live their life or what gets them there, as long as you know they're happy, they're moving where they're going to go and they're productive for society and themselves or their family and the people around them. But we'll get into that for sure, I think, at the end of the day you know, just talking about what we've been talking is, it's always self-evaluation. It's always looking at yourself, either at that moment, a little bit behind, of what happened also what happened when you were growing up and things that have caused you to be a certain way, and where you're going and like, like, at that moment when I'm running and I don't feel a certain way, I'm evaluating that. Why am I running right now? Is it training? Where's my next race coming from? Like all these different things.
Speaker 1:You can do it with school, you can do it with your life, you can do it with your family, you can do it with yourself, just for yourself. And so self-evaluation and awareness every day is super key. Like, where am I today? How am I feeling today? What am I doing? Oh, you know what? I did not feel like doing this today. I'm only going to do this and then, once I get started sometimes the way you don't feel, at least for me working out that's what I'm talking about I'll end up putting fucking more miles in, you know, and sometimes I feel great. I'm like why did I bunk Right, but you still got to take the action and get going at the end of the day.
Speaker 2:You know what ties that all in, though. Well, it all starts with the self-awareness, right, we can agree on that, right? Yeah, right, you can't get anywhere unless you're aware of that, but I've seen you post it or speak about this on social media as well. It's delayed gratification, it's purpose over pleasure. When you can deny yourself that immediate pleasure and tap into something that's like you're going to delay that for something that you're not going to immediately see right now. Yeah, you're going to go on that. You go train. You're not going to immediately see the results, right, but you know it's good for you. You know, if you stack that win for the day and the long term, you know it might prevent diabetes, it might prevent other physical ailments when you're older, you know. And so, being like, disciplined enough to know that I'm going to train today before I enjoy this glass of wine with my filet mignonne Well done. You know what I'm saying. So I think that's foundational for any of us. Bro, we didn't learn that as kids, right? We didn't learn that as delayed gratification.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nobody told me that. I mean we just kind of moved it. I mean I knew that practice, practice, practice, practice in order to get the wins and move forward. I'll use an example as an example running a marathon. I know a six months training for me the first time I did it and I know you did a marathon as well when I crossed the finish line, the first thing through my mind was holy shit, I did it after six months, after six months of training. Yeah, that was my first thing through my mind. It wasn't like the metal or this, it was. It was six months of the journey.
Speaker 1:Like you said, the delayed gratification was the journey, the time I fucking put in the three o'clock in the mornings to get 18 miles because I had something to do still in the morning with my daughters or something like that. So the first thing that ran through my mind was oh my God, the emotions and everything come through. But it was man, I went through this journey for six months to do this, to do run 26.2 miles, yeah, and the other stuff that I've done. So, yeah, that's still for true, I think. I think people don't talk about delayed gratification and rather than emotions and feelings at that point and whatnot.
Speaker 2:And that's purposeful You're, you're being intentional and you're living a purposeful life. When you do that and when you do that, that's when you attract that higher, the higher vibrational energy, those things into your life, those business opportunities, circumstances, I mean you know when you're doing, when you're doing all the things that you enjoy doing, you know like it's reinforcing being a good man, like good things come of that, great things come from that, great things come from that. And it works both ways. When you're doing shady shit, being negative, operating in that low vibrate, negative things will find you.
Speaker 1:I was just talking with somebody and they were talking about how they had weighed physically, physical weight their highest most recently a couple of months ago or a year ago or something and they went to the gym, they were eating properly from what that person said, but they the person wasn't losing weight like maybe a pound, maybe two pounds and like what the fuck's going on? Why am I not losing weight? Well, there was a lot of stress and a lot of factors going on in there. As soon as the person dropped that dropped like almost the dead weight, and I mean that not in like, but mentally, emotionally started dialing herself in in a different way, vibrational state, investing everything changed. The weight came off easily, easily.
Speaker 1:And it's because you attract exactly what you just said. You can't operate this way. You can't be, you can't attract certain people. If your energy is weak and low, you will receive the same shit back. Unfortunately, there might be somebody that sees that and tries to, but that person goes. I see that I'm going to fucking try to help and hopefully you listen, but until you do, until you're aware of that, that's what you need in this person and whatnot, and then you start putting in the work your life will change in mind, body and soul, I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that movement part of it, the physical part of it, though is the secret sauce. I think that's at the core of making those other things better, because when you finish your workout, bro, how good do you feel? Like your endorphins are like high, right, so good, you know. You leave the gym, you're holding the door open for people, you're like thank you Like everyone's, like your energy is like super good, yeah Right. And then a few hours of kind of lowers, a little bit. You might have to hit some burpees and do some pushups, and, elevated again, they're getting a cold clean. You know exactly Right. But I think the movement training is at the core of those other things. Slipping away Also, that actually speaks to you have to, like.
Speaker 2:You mentioned how that person was getting discouraged because they were locked into the goal, and goals are good, but you have to love the journey of getting in there every day, bro, because if you don't enjoy that journey, you're not going to stick to it. You and I both enjoy training, working out Like we love it. We don't work off if we don't do that and if you can. And the physical attributes and we talked about this before is just a byproduct of enjoying that journey? Yeah, it goes for anything in the classroom work, some type of project, maybe that you're working on business Like your business, uag fit it's. You know, as an outsider looking in, looks like it's thriving, doing well. You've got young men and women coming in here and training daily, but it's taking you time to build that up brick by brick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I mean and I think I listened when she told me that she needed to change up in here and invest in herself in different ways rather than just working out, and everything changed. And that's exactly what happened with my business. My dad had passed away, I had drowned myself, my grief and all these different things that were going on in alcohol pretty much for six months and it was not good. I was not in a good state of mind. I was working out still and I still had my business, but it was not thriving and it wasn't until I invested in myself as a product, as a brand, as being real self-evaluating. I didn't learn this 20 years ago. This is something new to me as well. You know, putting in the work and continuing to put in the work.
Speaker 1:And my business changed it fucking just people were just coming and calling me and making appointments and whatnot and the same thing. It was my energy based on me being fake, drowning myself and hiding it from people. Hiding the drinking, hiding, going out all the time, hiding I didn't care about myself or my family. Really, at the end of the day, when I'm doing that, that means I'm being selfish and not keeping away, staying away from here. I was hiding my pain, my loss, all these different things and emotions that were going on, just trying to suppress them, and so I was operating on a low vibrational state, like you say, and so, because of that, my business was also hindering.
Speaker 1:I had so many things going on, I lost that my business is not doing well. It wasn't until then that everything's been great. And so now, for the past almost six years, man, it's been amazing. I'm blessed. The hardest part of this business is trying to make room for people to come in. Actually, I'm like, oh shit, I don't have that time, but I can put you on a group or it's figured out or something, and I've been blessed to that. Somebody will come and go and then boom, there's a spot that opens. So it's really cool and it's given me the opportunity and I do well, and I'm very, very blessed and happy where I'm at, but continue to always keep the door open for other opportunities if they may be. And I still got the weight of the badge We'll see what that I got to put some work on that. I have not, but that's where we're at, man, but everything in its timing Everything is timing, everything has its divine timing.
Speaker 2:But if you like people, we can't just like ask God for things. We can ask God for things, but we also have to be intentional when we ask. Behind that, we have to put into action to make that happen. He's not just going to drop it on your lap. You got to be intentional with it and that's what you were doing right, like you were, I know you were in your way, praying for this business to thrive. Right, and you put your eggs in one basket or in a basket, let's say right and. But the things you were doing were reinforcing that, and when you do that, good things come of that. You were also, I would imagine, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2:Your circle of people changed and that's a big part of it too. Like, who do you surround yourself with? Right? Like we say you know, tell me who your friends are, I'll tell you who you are right. If you're the smartest guy in your group of friends, you got to get a new group of friends. I'm a big believer in that and I tell it to my kids all the time. And I want to know your friends. I want to get to know them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I'm sort of a blessing on my older daughter. She brought her friends really good friends and family and whatnot. But you touched on something really quick and this is kind of why we're here as well is to have an open dialogue, debate, you know, or just our opinions and stuff where we've been through and coming from different aspects. Many you talked about God and maybe praying and you know, talking about my business to thrive or whatnot. You believe in God and Catholicism or Christianity, or are you a religious man?
Speaker 2:So I'm of the opinion that religion and spirituality are two different things. Okay, right, and I'm in no way shape or form an expert on religions and stuff like that, but I grew up Catholic Went to.
Speaker 2:Catholic school for 13 years. There's a lot of things that I did not agree, still don't agree on with the Catholic Church. If that is something that works for another individual, great, if it makes him a better person, then so be it. But as I started to kind of do more work on myself and look at programming, conditioning and those types of things, it kind of deepened the divide between who I felt I was as a soul, as a spirit, versus what's been kind of pushed upon me as a kid right, just because of being Latino, grow up Catholic. Most of the time.
Speaker 2:And so there is a difference. I do believe in God, or the universe, allah some people refer to as Allah, buddha. Just it is. For me, it's the recognition of a higher power, a higher energy source, and which is also within myself and it's within you. This is my take on it, because we all come from the same creation and what I do impacts others around me, for all energy. If I do something, it's going to trickle out to the universe and it will come back to me as an energetic force. Now, that's why it's important for me to meditate and to listen to, like, what I'm feeling within myself and what I'm sensing within my nervous system through meditations and breath work and all that. It's important to tap into that because I'm acknowledging again this is how I see it I'm acknowledging that there is a higher power and that there's a higher force that has control over all of us, and for me, that is different from just the what I consider a manmade construct of religion.
Speaker 1:So then, you believe in karma, you believe in faith, you believe in that the higher power, whatever that might be in spirituality, has control and that you don't have control.
Speaker 2:Well, I do believe in karma, and karma is both good and bad. Right, you put out good things in the world and good things will come back. I do believe that and we as in our small human minds, I think, we can't really understand a lot of it and we don't. Sometimes we don't see how that plays out in the universe. But, yes, I do believe in the rules of the universe and how you treat others and how you conduct yourself out in the world, it does impact.
Speaker 2:Okay, if you hurt someone, like in a relationship that's going to, you're going to have to pay that karmic deck back in some way, shape or form, somewhere or another. Yeah, okay, and so, yeah, I do believe that. As far as faith, I try to remind myself that there is like we have to release things. I think anytime you try to control a situation, you're operating from a fear based position, and anything that's fear based is not healthy, for that's a low vibrational energy. So, being able to trust that the universe, in the spirit of karma, if you're living intentionally and living in purpose purpose over pleasure a man or a woman that's doing those things will have good karmic return if you will. But that's where practicing these things that we just talked about earlier is having faith in the universal laws.
Speaker 1:Let me ask you a question how does a person live to be 90? And they were an alcoholic, they went to jail, committed some crimes that were heinous. They did it again, then they went on to other drugs, they lived a fucked up life and they lived to be 90. And then you have a kid who's seven, eight, 10 and has cancer and is about to die. And obviously kids are innocent, they don't have that mindset of so-and-so. Why is the higher power Right? And this is not for you.
Speaker 2:It's a question right. It's something we all think about.
Speaker 1:It's a fair question. I just want to see where you're coming from, because I'm sure that priests get asked this question. The priests will go like why is God punishing me? So why I didn't do anything? And this other fucking predator, this other person is living to be 90 and the good person that's done well and so-and-so dies early, has cancer or some fucked up shit's going on.
Speaker 2:First question I have is like living is like, how do you define it? Living People live, people that live to be. Like my son, he lived six weeks. He lived a greater life than that 90-year-old you described and he had. I guarantee you he had more impact on the world than that 90-year-old. A positive impact. Correct, right. So you can live 90 and you can physically live to be 90, but never really lived, because you're so unaware, you've been so conditioned and traumatized that I do believe in demonic spirits. That is a real thing. There are evil. There is evil in the world, there is that negative karma in the world. So if that person physically is to 90, okay, so be it. But I guarantee you the quality of life that person lived was horrible. They lived in a perpetual state of fear, perpetual state of trauma, survival state. These are all low vibrational energy frequencies.
Speaker 2:Versus a young kid that maybe gets hit by a car, that gave love to the world, to his parents, to his family members or her family members, and also accepting that maybe we don't know all the answers to everything and that's having lost a child, I can say that I had to release that and say you know what? I don't understand why this transpired. I know the gift that my son gave to the world and I'm at peace with that and understand I may never know the answers to that and that's okay too. And that's where the release comes from not holding on to tight and that's where my faith knowing that we talked about karma, like we don't know sometimes, like maybe somebody's passing is actually a gift to the world with like years down the road you know there's a story I'm not even gonna try to get into it, but it talked. You just never know what kind of blessing there's, like this Chinese parable, I believe, is about a farmer and his son getting drafted to go to war and the son gets hurt and the neighbor the villagers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that one.
Speaker 2:It's like you just never know it. Like you break a leg, you can't go to war. That is maybe, yeah, maybe. So that's the thing. Yeah and I don't. You know that's a good story? Not very long.
Speaker 1:Actually, they come in to get a horse. The horse, son, so blessing the town comes in, the horse leaves, oh no, it's not good. But the horse leaves, he breaks his leg and the owner, the army, comes. They're supposed to go to army because of the broken leg. He doesn't go and they think, oh my God, that's America and he goes. Maybe you don't know, but nobody knows. Nobody knows the decisions you make, or they're bad. You just make the best decision possible. You talked about fear the word fear not operating in a low vibrational state, and then I want to expand that a little bit, because do you mean that everything, if you're fearful, that you're going to always operate from a vibrational state, or do we need fear for certain things?
Speaker 2:I think it's fears tied to like our past, and it can be tied to like not being good enough for something. It can be tied to our worth self doubt. I think that's where that comes from. Can you elevate from that, though? Yeah?
Speaker 1:You know Rocky Babu in the movie I don't know if you remember. He says fear is like fire burning deep inside. I can't do it in his voice.
Speaker 2:I'm trying.
Speaker 1:I'm trying, sorry, so he says you know it's operating inside of you and you can either fear, can either fucking, you know, make you I wouldn't say coward, but it can. It can break you, or you can use fear to keep you sharp.
Speaker 2:Yeah Right. Like, obviously I'm not a spiritual guru. Yeah, what I've, you're not what I've learned. What I've learned and what helps me is when I have fear, I try to be present in the moment because you're fearful of shit. Yeah, there are moments where I do feel fear, yeah Right, and I ask myself where is that coming from?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right. So if I unpack it right, like I, like I'm afraid of heights, right, I always try to face that fear. So, like, a few weeks back we were in Chicago. We went to one of those towers Right I forgot what the Willis Tower one, and they have this thing where, like, the windows lean out, oh yeah, like at 45 degrees. I'm like I didn't do it, my kids did it, but I went up. So because? But I wanted to confront that fear, because I wanted to ask myself I had to unpack and say what am I afraid of? Am I afraid that I'm going to fall out of the building or the building is going to collapse? So once you start to break down those fears, you realize that a lot of this just a lie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's something that, like it's kind of it's a, it's a falsehood, yeah, but I try to be present, right, and I you know like when I get anxious, I know it's just me, like trying to control a future outcome, yeah, of something because of maybe a past situation that's made me feel anxiety about situ. I'm trying to control something that's a fear state and if I'm feeling depressed, it's just something from my past that is rear and it's ugly head. I have to release that and be present in the moment and when I can consciously tap into my present moment, it eliminates that fear. Like the only moment when you and I have is us right here, sitting right now. Nothing else matters. I can step outside, get hit by a car. What the fuck am I afraid of them? Like, it's like this this is the present. This is the only moment we don't have. We have, at the moment, yesterday's done with. You know what I'm saying it's like. So what am I afraid of, bro?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you're 100%. But do you think like sometimes we all operate, okay, we can't control emotions. Emotions are going to happen. We just control how we, how we react to this process and react to the more we're going to do with it.
Speaker 1:Like you said, you have a feeling of fearful of heights and you were at this place and then you're like processing it and how we? You know you're taking it all in and you have a choice how are you going to deal with it? You decided to go up not do this other thing, but you decided to go up and do that.
Speaker 2:Well, it was not that I'm tight, but I was going to pay like $40 just to lean halfway out of a window $40 to scare my shit.
Speaker 1:But I also believe that right, like even I've, even that I have prepared myself for an event, for a marathon, ultra marathon, 100 miler, a triathlon, whatever that might be, or other people that have prepared themselves for the game seven world series, or for school for a test, those emotions come in fearfulness, anxiety, a little bit, all these different things right, and to me you're right. You have to dive into that and go okay, cool, how am I processing this? Why am I feeling this way? I've studied, you have to kind of talk to yourself, but it keeps you sharp. It keeps you sharp If you're nobody from the MMA, nobody from Navy SEALs. They get up there and go yeah, I was never afraid, bro, fuck that al-Qaeda and all this shit. I went in there. I was fucking gung-ho, baby, I'm not afraid to die. They're all fucking afraid to die. They're all that keeps you tight.
Speaker 2:That keeps you somewhat argue that it devil's advocate. Here we're being tight, Like Kobe talks about that, like, are you afraid to miss that free throw to win the game? And so the mama mentality is well, no, he's. I had to unpack what I was afraid of. You know what? Okay, so I missed a shot. We lose a game, we lose a championship. I'm still living a great life. Yeah, Like he contextualized it Right, Right and so. But if, if we go up there and we're tight, we might pull on that free throw a little bit, it might hit the front of the rim, Right, you know, when you know your best games as a ball player, you were loose, right, Like where you're playing free. That's the state I think we all want to live in. Right, Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I think that Kobe still felt the fear of not winning six or not doing this right Throughout the whole process not that game right and he understood that he, he was, he was greatness, right, his greatness came in flow states. But what got him there and I'm like I'm only assuming all these different things was what kept them sharp, what kept them going to the gym right, what kept them going to the gym, waking up early, put it in the time was the fear of not winning, the fear of not being the best, the fear of not being his best, the fear of not being a leader and not being there for his other team. It's like all these different things, and maybe fear is the wrong word, maybe it's more something else, but what I'm saying is that those are the things that kept them sharp. Like he's like hey, I'm at the gym four o'clock. Where are you Right?
Speaker 2:And and, and so I think that those are the demons that we all fight as as, and that's why he was great.
Speaker 1:He won six five, five, five.
Speaker 2:Goggins talks about that, right, Goggins, like he talks about who's going to carry the boats. Yeah, he gets up because he's fighting his fucking demons every day, Straight up, and also like when you have something to live for. I think that is outside of yourself, your kids, like you know that that, for me, that's a big part of it is is that part of it too.
Speaker 1:And so let me get more. Just about the scenario of the question. I guess Can you operate from a from a? Let's just talk about Kobe. Let's just do this, Cause I guess this would be my question, Cause I know we can go broad, spread drum or like small. Let's just talk about Kobe winning what he did and all that. We all know that. Everybody knows Kobe. Do you think he did it out of fear? Or love? Love, he came from a place of love. Yeah, I kept him thriving, yeah, and fear.
Speaker 2:Fear doesn't result in incredible outcomes like that because it's a fear, is a low vibrational energetic plane and that will never yield a high value, high energetic result. Only love can do that. Only love can do that, bro, and he loved the game. He loved the game and he loved the, but, more importantly, he loved the process. He was a gym rat. He said if I got to fight to get you on in the gym, I don't want you on my team, right? I tell my daughter that too. If I got to fight to get you to train, you don't want it. I want it more than you, and that's okay. Just be honest with me. Yeah, you know, if you just want to be on a team, cool, right. So, yeah, to answer your question, that's out of love.
Speaker 2:You got to love it, bro, love is the answer. Love is the answer, bro. I believe that, yeah, you know, that's, that's.
Speaker 1:I agree. I mean, I agree, you know I love the process, I love the journey, I love everything and doing it. And you do it with a passion, you do it for a heart, you do it. You know I train my clients because I love them. I love to see the process, what they go through, to kind of see through my eyes what I've been through as well and you're like, holy shit, the person's changed and whatnot.
Speaker 1:But I love using fear sometimes as as an antidote to sharpness. For me, if I don't feel fear like, if I'm just like I train for this ultra bra, I love it. I'm going to fucking do it. And if I don't get it, bro, it's okay because I did it. Look, it's okay, I'm going to run. I'm going to run until I can't and then I'm. You know, either way, I'm a winner.
Speaker 1:If I fucking operate from that mindset, bro, I'm a loser. And you all tell you why. Because when it gets fucking hard, when, when, when I'm aching, when I have blisters, when I'm chafing, when I've pulled my calf, when I'm dehydrated, when I'm pissing yellow and orange almost, and all these different things I'm going to quit. I'm going to fucking quit because and I'm not saying you can still use love in a different way, but what I'm saying is like fuck, no man. I said I was going to finish it. I told my people I was going to do it. I told myself I was going to do it. I'm fucking finishing this weather until I wake up into a hospital Like this is getting fucking done. Right, I'm, I'm, I'm doing it. It's going to happen. I'll fucking crawl. It's going to take me 30 hours rather than 24 and it kind of keeps me sharp and I use that as fuel right For the moment for the moment, I guess. So that's where I'm kind of coming from, as your bro, as your friend, I don't think that's my opinion.
Speaker 2:Yeah, healthy.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's fear. What is it? What do you think? Yeah, maybe I'm misusing it.
Speaker 2:I think you're just. You're so locked into to being better, yeah, and you're so like you've trained yourself to to be purposeful every day, like all these years of doing this work have gotten you to a level it's like your motivation momentum rather, is is moving in this direction, bro, that where you're just so conditioned to be like that. Now you've, you've elevated yourself to be in the state where you're just moving, you're moving in the direction where you want to go to, and it's love, because love is a verb You're mad at that shit.
Speaker 1:No, no, it's, it's, I love it.
Speaker 2:I don't even know you're putting into action, bro.
Speaker 1:That's when you do that love, love is a matter of fucking.
Speaker 2:I don't you know it's you can. You can say I love so-and-so, but if your actions don't reinforce that like right. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So like you're right.
Speaker 2:I think thinking about it?
Speaker 1:I'm not sure, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think it's the drive to to be better, because you've been at the other end of that with the bottle you said at some point, going through loss of your father. You've seen the darkness and it makes you appreciate that light that much more.
Speaker 1:Because, okay, because let me give you another scenario real quick. Then the, the heavier person, the person that's been trying to lose weight, right going to the gym, trying to rewrite, thinking they're doing it the right way, whatever. But they they're, they're overweight or they're obese, whatever, just physical stuff, yeah. But then you hear them say you know what, I don't care, I love my body. Like I don't care what you think I'm Physically, it's not healthy for them. It's not healthy anybody who's packing on more than I Mean we can go, men, female, but anything over 2500.
Speaker 1:So Calories, 30%, 30% body fat, okay, you know, 30 to 40, 50% body fat fucking, it's not good, right? I don't care, yeah, tiny, tall, whatever. What I'm saying is it's unhealthy Externally and for your body, for their physical body, it's unhealthy. But you probably got there for for certain ways in your actions and certain things you did. Most of the time, sometimes it's genetics and certain certain things that are involved that it's just not gonna happen. But my, my question to you is this when they say that those people that are bigger or whatnot, and they say I love my body, like and and and whatnot, do you really think they love their body?
Speaker 2:No, I think it's just a lack of awareness. Right, because we, you know, I know we've talked about escapism before Escape and escapism for a person, for everybody it's different Some people with alcohol, some people it's weed, some people with sex, some people with food. Why? Maybe when they were growing up in a disc, in a dysfunctional home, there was abuse and the only thing that brought them any type of soothing and comfort Were donuts and pizza, and that made them fucking feel good. So they've learned to rely on food as an escapism, to avoid having to do the work on themselves necessary To live a purposeful life, and that all those things can be escapism's, right. So can you be happy? And so no, you have to do the psychological, the mental, emotional work, and that's where therapy comes in, in my opinion. You need us, we all need assistance from a third party to Peel back the layers of the onion, to look at ourselves and say this is where I need work. Right, and so it is.
Speaker 2:That's why a lot, of, a lot of those like weight loss programs and doctors that do all those medical procedures when they do that, what are this? The lap band, and all that like they'll tell you like you need to drop X amount of pounds before you do this, because they want to see your level commitment and they also want to know that in many cases, I think, mental, mentally that you're doing the work on yourself to understand how you got to this point so that you don't revert back to it because it's all mental, it's it's psychological right, it's mental. And so when you can get out of that survival state and Really understand yourself and heal those parts of yourself that made you turn to food or the bottle to avoid having to do the work on yourself necessary to be better, then you can enjoy the process and then you can really tap into your authenticity. You're no longer escaping, escaping that you know what I'm saying and so I was gonna say something else. I lost my train of thought.
Speaker 1:No worries, think about it. I'll probably get you there right now, but we the oh, let me see, I hope I press the right one. Let me see, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that one, I like those two. No, I say to be turned up. Actually think, let me see, yeah, okay, um, so Go ahead, you figure it out, you need to. And and also yeah you can't go gal over the fucking. Remember your shit.
Speaker 2:So when you, when they say I'm happy with my body, I think also a person can only like Right.
Speaker 1:I love my body.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they can only love it to the extent where they've like, on the extreme of that, where, like the darkness, how, how dark have you gotten in your life? Like to level emotional darkness or mental darkness? Have you got to? Because I would. I think with that with that there's also parody on the other end that you have a deeper love for yourself when you've been to that dark place. Bro, I'm pretty sure you know, and I, and if you've done that difficult shadow work of Like healing yourself, it's hard work because it's like fucking, looking at all these things about yourself, you're like fuck, I don't like that about myself. Like why did I act that way? Why was acting fearful? Why was I short tempered? Why did I snap? Why did I almost get in a fight? You're these are all survival, fear-based things, and when you can resolve, start to resolve that, then you show up like completely different bro, like you can. The real Little Caesar shows up Pizza, pizza. You know what I mean. But you gotta, we gotta, we gotta heal ourselves, bro, and stop running the escapism.
Speaker 1:And I say that because they said once again I had a conversation with this person and she said that she loves her body.
Speaker 1:I love my body, love my body. I was like, oh okay, cool, that's awesome. You do, you like me too, but the? I Don't love my body like myself. You talking about you? Yeah, I'm talking about me and I say that humbly in regards to. But I've learned to accept that I'm short, right, dude, don't get me wrong. I it's not that I don't like my body Love my arms, my legs, physically, all these different things. You know I'm not Fat by any means. My body fat percentage probably like 23, 22. I think I've gone down to 20. I could get down to 17, 16 if I wanted to, whatnot, but we're not numbers.
Speaker 2:My muscle mass carry the one my BMI is this?
Speaker 1:my muscle skeleton yourself? No, but my muscle mass. There you go. I can bench three. It's a low, I think right.
Speaker 2:pension no you're strong bro.
Speaker 1:You're like a little bull. I mean a big bull, big bull, the southern kid ones. I was doing these gorilla Kb, gorilla rose, and he goes oh it's funny, you make it look good. I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, uh, just look like it. Like it, I don't want to see gorilla. I'm like, do I look like a gorilla or not? He goes. Well, you just look strong. This is awkward anyways. He, what's I saying? Oh, so acceptance, yeah, so I'm not in love with my body.
Speaker 1:I Am in love with the process of continuing to work out for my body, for my health. Like I do it for a health purpose, I don't do it to look a certain way. What that's the outcome of like me just taking care of the byproduct. Yeah, just doing what I do, right, but I'm I don't say to myself like, bro, I fucking love my body. No, I don't like my body, like I don't. But Because of that, because of that, hold on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, because of that because of that it keeps me sharp, mm-hmm, it keeps me going and working on going. Come on, keep going, working at it, keep fucking working at it. Yeah, painting he, painting the gym. Keep fucking doing the work, keep putting in the fucking work, because ultimately, you know, it's like one of those things of like Internal work that we do for ourselves. It's never ending, yeah, it doesn't end.
Speaker 1:You don't go and say I'm retiring at 70. I'm no longer gonna fucking continue to invest in myself. So, in other words, for me, I'm operating on a state that I'm Never gonna have the 4% body fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger body to compete and do look like that. I'm never gonna have that. That's fine, I don't. First of all, that's not me.
Speaker 1:The second of all, the journey of just trying to get close enough to a certain body fat percentage, a certain thing that my body can do Physically at a certain age. I enjoy that. I enjoy and you know how I enjoy it. I do these things. And then I sign up for an event and then I compare myself to other Athletes and I go fuck, I did fucking really good for almost being 50. Look, and these 25 year olds I remember when I was there and they're fucking hey, man, how you doing. Fuck. You killed it, bro, and it feels good that I'm still putting in the work to invest and Challenge myself and be competitive and you know what not anyways, that's what you said, a lot there, man, that's that's a layered rattle, even though no, because he Even what you said in the beginning.
Speaker 2:You said you're never gonna be like 4% body fat. Well, like that's actually negative self-talk to correct. You know, I don't know, just just but also also like Comparisons is gonna kill us. Like right you? Know, what I mean. And but before we move on, real quick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, I said I'm never gonna be 4% body fat. You know why? Cuz I don't want to be okay.
Speaker 2:That's not because that's acceptance.
Speaker 1:That's right, yeah, okay, so I don't want to cuz those guys that actually do that.
Speaker 2:It's very hard. For you can't maintain no, it's not really, it's not walk around realistic. Oh, those guys are competing, yeah, so in other words.
Speaker 1:If I, I heard I wanted to get there, that means I have to go into that competition stage and then you have to do yeah, I think they prep or do the meal thing where they bulk and then they drop. I have this girl that I want to interview. She she's a cop, but she's she's a she's in bodybuilding and it's a fucking process. It's. It's not easy. I hear it's really really hard and it's not something I want to do. Yeah, just like some people don't want to run a fucking marathon or anything more, and that's okay too. But that's why it kind of said I know that's fair, so that's that's fair.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right. Then you said the second thing up some pack was we were talking about um.
Speaker 2:It's just that, it's just a self acceptance, right? The other, like a while back some guy asked me the gym. Like I caught him like lifting up his shirt, I left showing us like six pack and shit, and you're like, and he starts talking about what his goals are and shit like that. I'm like just listening right and he's like well, what are your goals? How old this guy? Probably about mid 40s, like our age like 40s right so and.
Speaker 2:And he's just what are your goals? Yes, you, yeah. He asked me what are your goals? And I was just like you know, I realized I didn't have any like real, specific fitness goals and that's why I just flipped it. I was like you know, I don't really have, I just enjoy the process, coming in here and doing the work and and the byproduct will be having, hopefully, a six pack one day. Hopefully, a hope is not an effective plan, according to John Wooden, but and he's a digress I like John Wooden, yeah, he's good, um, rip, but I, I really do feel like if you, if you, if you're working out daily, you're gonna you didn't have a sick you're gonna be ripped, like West Watson says rip, rich and rare. You know what I mean? It's like you're gonna. I know you like that dude I Don't listen to me I know it's an acquired.
Speaker 1:No, I feel like my son on Andy Fosello. He was everybody for cello. He likes many, for cello has all these people on.
Speaker 2:There's a bunch of people that either like him or you don't. He's not everybody. That being said, I do Subscribe to some of those mess, to the message that he puts out, but I do believe if you, if you are, live a Purposeful life, if you commit to that fitness part of it, you're gonna have that body bro. And if, if you don't, there's other areas in our lives. You said earlier, we're cheating, our cheating ourselves, but you don't have a goal. What did I just say right now?
Speaker 1:You said you just go and enjoy the journey. Enjoy the journey, yeah, yeah, but the bag I had, that guy had goals.
Speaker 2:That guy that was talking to me. Yeah, he told you his goal. Yeah, he says he wanted it. I guess, get a little bit bigger and have more abs.
Speaker 1:Well, that's not very specific though.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, we were in the gym, we weren't in class, like you're taking notes.
Speaker 1:No, I wasn't asking to get specific. Oh, so does that body percentage look like? How about our legs and your cats? How does cats look?
Speaker 2:usually everybody's always wearing pants.
Speaker 1:So yeah I'm, he's got no legs. You know, the other day I'm sure you the other day.
Speaker 2:There's Yesterday's side note here, kind of not.
Speaker 1:What's that guy's name? Let's put them on the nose.
Speaker 2:Yesterday there was a dude. He has this fucking sick-ass Kaz in the gym. Yeah, I was like you thought of me. Yeah, I did think you got sick-ass cats to my eye went up to him.
Speaker 2:I was like you know what you want to acquire, what you desire, right? So you want to ask how person, how they got there. Like dude, how did like, what do you do for your cats? I asked them which I never do, I think it's corny, yeah, like to ask somebody that in the gym, but I just felt called to do it, felt to be, I felt like I want to be corny that day, I guess. So he's like we broke it down for me, like what he did for Kaz and this and that, so I was there, right, it's such a stubborn fucking muscle, bro.
Speaker 1:It is. I really I've never worked them out. I think that's genetics for me, yeah, and I run a lot and that views your calves and legs and whatnot. But yeah, I see a lot of people that fucking they work, as they never get them. Look, I'll be honest, I don't have a chest Like I don't have a small chest, but I don't have this thing that pops up naturally like look at that guy's chest, Nice arms, like I'm gonna come to myself, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I was going south real quick. Yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 1:Sorry guys, sorry, you got a lot of heart bro.
Speaker 2:I got a lot of heart.
Speaker 1:Hey, you know what my best part is? My ears. No, just kidding, all right. Fear, that's what we're talking about. You know, what I want to talk about is, real quick, is social media. Man, oh shit, yeah, talk to me. What you're on right now it's trying to fucking diverse real quick. No, I'm trying to get some notes on here that I'm done. Go ahead. No, it's not no social media, you know, I know that we have it. It's part of our, our culture right now. Our generation, where we're at, has been around too long, but I know that it has its good place and it's and it's bad place for it. And you know, I just want to talk to the audience of, like, the good things that it has to offer and the bad things that it has to offer. Like, what are your, what is your perspective, what is your? Yeah, I just a moment about that.
Speaker 2:Well, everyone lives their best life on social media.
Speaker 1:And I was gonna show you there.
Speaker 2:For the most part, I was gonna show you their fucking, their pain, you know, or their hardships in life. For the most part you know, for the most Especially if you're young girl that it shows it pretty good, yeah, and that's. That takes a lot of guts, bro, to be vulnerable, yeah, and to show that side of of ourselves. It takes a lot of Vulnerability and guts, but there's a lot of growth in that right. But but you think that sometimes hold on.
Speaker 1:Do you think that that person is Doing it because they also want something from somebody on the other end to feel? Make them feel some way like they want them. What is that called?
Speaker 1:Validations sympathy or empathy. Empathy yeah, you know they're doing it online with people that she knows, so, but let's say she has a thousand or he has a thousand followers, and then they're doing that. Do you think that they want that Like a return, like it's okay, you're gonna go through it? Oh, I know where you're going through. I love you. Keep going, keep strong that. They need that, they want that, they search that and is that is that good? I?
Speaker 2:Can't I? I don't know, I can't speak to that, but maybe maybe they feel like by journaling this out online, by writing this out online or by sharing a story online, that it's actually bringing them some healing, just like when we did this podcast in the beginning, it was very healing for us, right To talk about some of the things we went through and how we're coping now. At least I found it to be healing. Now, whether or not they're doing it with their intentions are, you know, I I can't speak to that. I know there were moments when I shared certain writings that I felt expanded as a person, when I wrote about things and I obviously my counts private, so I'm not I'm not doing it for the masses or the likes per se, but it's helping me heal and expand, yeah, as a person, versus Versus like me feeling like I need to hide who I am. Now I can.
Speaker 2:Again, I can't speak to you know why people do it for the most part, but I'd also do. I also do know that we have an obligation is souls, spirits, to To share our gifts with the world a lot of times, because we're not the only ones going through it and, if you can, actually not to sound cliche ish, but help it, one person with what you're going through, because that your message resonates with them. You're helping someone, man, and that's you know. That's important too, because I I guarantee you somebody else is going through the pain you've gone through and they're they're looking for you know, they're having a hard time in life and maybe your story helps them so I Think you said the biggest word there was intention.
Speaker 1:Everybody, a lot of the things is what is your intention? Yeah, it was your intention to help, or was your intention to fucking do this? Yeah, so yeah, we can't speak to the other people's intentions, right? But my, my personal opinion is if your intention is to receive something back, so I want to put out, let's take it to another, another angle. It's my birthday and oh yeah, you know everybody.
Speaker 1:And people posting that reposting all these people said happy birthday to you and all this shit. This is 46, this is 40, this is feet. Look at us talking shit, yeah, but all that and reposting and then people are giving you a happy birthday. I'm not. That's great. I love that. They people do that right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's okay. But if you're reposting, reposting and redoing it so that people know it's your birthday today and you're doing it because it makes you feel good, and vice versa, the other way, like you're doing it so that people can tell you like you're okay, you're gonna be great, go through the grief. I'm here to talk to you and your intentions are to receive something From somebody to make you yourself heal, I think it's the wrong angle, mm-hmm. I think the right angle is you are not gonna heal until you fucking get with yourself first. And it's a fucking birthday, and it's your birthday. Celebrate the way you want. You don't need anybody to make you happy. You can fucking be happy without anybody telling you happy birthday or so like that you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:like yeah, tension.
Speaker 1:That's the intention. The intention of oh, look at me. Or look at me, I'm going through failure, look at me, I'm, I just did this. Or look at me yeah, what? Okay, and I'll give you an example, because people will fucking talk shit right now, go.
Speaker 1:So you post up. You post up all the time about you running like, yeah, but I do it to a try and pack somebody. I'm not trying to get anything. I'm not okay if somebody tells me I did a great job, hey, great run today, cool, thank you appreciate it, but I'm not doing it. My intention is to get validation from them. My intention is to show them that today was a hard day, today was a hot day today, so long. So I don't want to get up, and I know that you have it in you as well to do it. I'm trying to inspire, not to influence, but to inspire to, to understand that there's drive there, that there's purpose, that you're Better than that, when you don't want to be. So my, my intention is that, rather than hey, I'm going through some shit, can you please tell me that I'm, that I'm gonna be okay now I'm not. I'm operating on a level of like, sympathy and empathy, with you controlling my emotions and I don't, but you're also.
Speaker 2:You're also pushing your brand as a business owner to yes, correct, yeah, so that's that's a little bit, a little bit of apples and oranges there, because it's your, it's your livelihood, it's a business and that's your brand. Yeah, we all have a brand now, and that's one thing that social media has taught us. Right is like we all have a brand and we all have you know the way in which we show up, what we want to be presented. That's one thing, right? Um, you Lost my train of thought here, bro.
Speaker 1:Kinko galoba, it works, are you saying it right? Yeah, it's Kinko galoba.
Speaker 2:Okay, I just wasn't sure. It sounded weird. I'm pretty sure Maybe it was your accent. Oh, what the?
Speaker 1:The uh, yeah, it's that, or Alpha bring, with Joe Rogan pushes Alpha bring. Oh, okay, but only for Alpha, only for Alpha. So are you an Alpha, alpha perro?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I also think it's important to unplug from it. Like I just came off from a little three week unplugged soft resale where I wasn't on it. It felt really good. It felt light, cause you can get into some like mindless scrolling and just I was wasting a lot of a lot of fucking time. So that's the negative to it, right. And then also like who you're following because of the algorithms and shit, like you have to be, it'll send shit to you, yeah, yeah. And then if you look at a picture, then all of a sudden you get flooded with all this shit. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:It's like so I'm gonna be looking at the wrong pictures.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's still looking at Some low rider girls and stuff.
Speaker 1:Low rider girls. Oh my God, hey, no, look, I wrote down some notes here about, like I think I think for me at least some of the pros of social media. If you right now self marketing like back in the day you hired somebody to do some marketing Now you can, like you said, you're your own brand, like I've done a lot of my marketing just by posting a video talking about certain things and people expect not these things from me and these messages. Now that when I see some of my friends went out there like hey, be better, and they'll say that that's kind of like okay, that's something I came up with just to say or whatnot, and the messages and just trying to put up positive vibes out there, right. So self marketing, I think is really good. You can make money off of it. Another positive about it you can be an influencer or people are calling influencers and make money. It's good for people.
Speaker 2:You have to be I mean, I'm not doing this, but you obviously use it for your business. You have to be consistent with your post. You know you have to do it several times a week and because you're doing the branding, You're doing the branding Right, Opposed to like I post once in a blue moon and I just post whatever the hell I enjoy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's not what you do for a living.
Speaker 2:Exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:So it's different, but you're liking you do it for several different things. You don't know who's looking and listening and could affect somebody else's life by based on the work you continue to do. I like that you can connect with family and friends at times that you haven't seen. People from out of state, out of country, that can see your posts and see you know you're posting up like oh, my family gets to see it because back in the day it was either sending a picture or pictures to them and sending them a video, or being with them. It was very hey, I haven't talked to you in 10 years. What's new? Oh, I got two kids. What the fuck happened?
Speaker 2:Yeah, how come you didn't post?
Speaker 1:I see more of the daily stuff going on with people around the world. You know family and friends that you may have. You can stay more connected. It's also very fun at times to use it as an entertainment. If you use it as that, you're like there's some funny shit out there. Hell, you know some funny memes, like the one with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2:That's a good one. And him and Biden him and Brandon In jail, that's a good one. Hey question, yeah, have. Did you notice an increase in business with like, the more you posted on social media, like I see you posting, like you know your, your clients are working, working out with them? Have you? Have you even tracked like an increase in your business because of that? So most of.
Speaker 1:I would say I've been tracked by numbers. But by new clients that I get, I ask them how they heard of me, and most of them have been referrals. So that is my highest return is my referrals, based on people that have told somebody about me. And the other thing is what's worth more than me posting is the repost by the people. So I have whatever a thousand followers, whatever, whatever thousands and thousands of followers. So that's cool, but a lot of them aren't here either, right, A lot of them are somewhere else, whatever.
Speaker 1:So what ends up happening is 10 of these kids repost the video that I took of them and I tagged them. So when they repost now I'm in their followers, like their followers are looking at that video. What ends up happening is they roll on over. So I'll tell people hey, I'm making a video I'm going to tag. You, Make sure to repost, please. And so that's the only thing I'm asking of them pretty much. And so when they repost, they have a thousand followers each and that's five people that are tagging. That's five thousand followers. That saw what? They don't follow me, but I've turned them over, and so then now they're asking questions like where do you go? So then what ends up happening is there's a return on that, but it was because of that post that I got a referral, Like this guy told his kid, his friend and his mom says hey, I want to go with UAG fit based on a fucking video that this kid reposted.
Speaker 2:But that's the process. Yeah, boom, boom, like you're climbing slowly, slowly, slowly You're scaling your business, you're growing your business.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and that's how it's worked. So, yeah, it has grown. The second, obviously thing is going to be social media. And I'm on, I'm on, I'm on IG, I'm on Facebook, I'm on Tik Tok, I'm on snap, but I really don't do anything with snap, I'm not on, like, be real. Yeah, those are the main ones. I think for me, ig is worth the best and it kind of just throws it into Facebook and I kind of post some stuff up on Tik Tok. But, yeah, that's where. That's where it's kind of been.
Speaker 2:What's next for you? As far as well as you know, uag fit, weight of the badge. What do you? Yeah, what's?
Speaker 1:what's around the coin. So UAG fit man, I'm just, I'm locked in with that. I love where I'm at with it. I love the clients that I have, from the morning to the afternoon, from the athletes to the weekend warriors, from the kids to the adults, from the college to the high school. I love men and women, boys and girls and all the the kids that I train in different aspects of of their sport, from basketball to soccer to baseball to softball, and I love it. So I want to continue to do that for at least five more years, or actually until I can't.
Speaker 1:But the transition would be to the weight of the badge and then include everything. So reach out more to another demographic weight of the badge is a nonprofit organization that helps military law enforcement, nurses, doctors, first responders in general first responders in getting in better shape in mind, body and soul, and so we hope to do so and kind of incorporate everything, and that is just by reaching out, getting some donations, reaching out, get some grants and whatnot and just trying to figure it out. This is new to me. I have nothing like when I started my business. I didn't know anything about it and it took time, and this will take time, but I've been really blessed to have so many clients right now that my focus is on that and I've put less focus on weight of the badge. But I'm hoping to balance both of them equally until it merges and it just kind of goes and flows together.
Speaker 1:That's where I'm at. Beautiful bro. Yeah, how about yourself? Where are you at? No, but how about yourself with, like, your journey and like I think you had talked about? You know, I wrote down some stuff before New Year's and we had talked about it and I said I think I want to get healthy, run another race, do these things. And I've done everything. I have it here in this notebook. I look for it. But I remember you had said you wanted to buy an extra property or like a rental property, and I said I wanted to play a guitar. I haven't bought the guitar yet, but I'm like next month.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I want to play the guitar too. By the way, my boss is actually a great musician and he's been pushing me to do it, but yeah. Anyway, let's get back to the IG stuff or social media.
Speaker 1:I think one more other thing is that there's good information. Sometimes you'll see like a team that lost or one, and you get it really quick, like Twitter, like, oh shit, you know, there's news information, but some of the cons just go right back to it Information. A lot of it is unconfirmed. It can be biased, it can be pushed a certain way and if, like you said, if you click on something, it'll push you. If I click on something with Trump, it's just going to keep feeding me shit, it'll keep feeding me stuff.
Speaker 2:So I got. I'll be honest, I got tired of a lot of the like, because you know I was doing a lot of that inner work and I got tired of seeing it, because you can get stuck in the loop of what was trying to like, work on yourself and work on yourself. It's like, all right, I'm going to unplug. I just wanted to feel quote, unquote normal. So that's why I had to unplug from it. You know what I mean. I didn't want to hear about trying to understand certain behaviors or trying to understand shadow work or traumas and stuff like that. You know what I mean. I didn't hear anything about therapy or I just wanted to be. I just want to go about my day and just mindlessly. I know that sounds odd, but I just wanted to unplug from all that and it helped. It helped, I just felt lighter, yeah.
Speaker 1:I try to actually not to think about that. The only thing I try to think about is being aware, like, what's going down right now and then why am I thinking right? But I guess the thing is like, if I'm always talking about shadow work and I'm always talking about this and talking about that, it gets a lot Like it really gets overwhelming, rather than just me. You're in flow state, you're already doing it, you don't have to think about it. This is shadow work. Let me do it. No, this is song, so let me do it. Right. When I go up to the plate and if I'm feeling good, I'm at a hidden street, I'm not thinking about swinging, I'm just looking at the one going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not thinking about my swing, and that's yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not thinking about like okay, left foot down, keep your hips in, fucking you know whatever. Yeah, process of like make sure we're inside and out the ball and this and that I'm just fucking seeing the ball Like this is a good pitch swing, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I think that's the way with you. I have this conversation with my boy, my boy Juan Juan. Two, three Juan. He's a brother with the Hispanic name 1440. Motivation to follow him. Dudes ripped, rich and rare.
Speaker 1:I got a story about Juan Not him, but he's a woman.
Speaker 2:But we talked about this how actually staying in the loop of doing this work on yourself is that can actually be like a trauma response, if you just stay in that loop and so yeah, so just, you just got to, you got unplugged from it, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that was the next thing that I think was a con, which was becoming addicted to it. Like you just addicted to it, yeah, and you're just like hey, feed me more, feed me more. Exactly, and we talked about this earlier, one of the cons of this whole thing was people are posting for the look at me syndrome the masses, the masses Like, and they're looking to see who's liking who's not. They're looking to see how many and if there's a response and they're getting a high from that. And then they're also looking to see. One of the other things is shit. I lost a friend, or a couple friends, which I thought I mean actually they were a client, that there was a client associate, but because at one point I unfollowed everybody, my whole fucking thing, I just fucking just cleared Start over.
Speaker 2:clear the deck, clear the deck. I like that. I do that shit too, yeah.
Speaker 1:You got to remove people and then I just fucking went back and go. Okay, let me start from day one again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we set the algorithm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and people were like you don't follow me, fuck you. And they I'm like okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sorry, you don't follow me for like three hours. You got mad at me. I did no, I'm fucking with you.
Speaker 1:I don't even think I follow you, I'm just kidding. I'm sorry, don't be mad. That's pretty good, bro, I was going to come back. I don't think I follow you. I use my other ones to follow people, I'm not just kidding. My other social media, no, yeah, so I? You know people will get all fucking twisted. It was just like almost like that, like right now we're in a weird time. We're in this time of like.
Speaker 1:If you don't, if you're not vaccinated this is the. I'll use these as an example. If you're not vaccinated, you know, fuck you. If you vote for Trump, fuck you. If you don't follow me, fuck you. It's like whoa, where did we come in black and white here? Why can't you just do you? Cool, I'm not following you because I choose. Not too cool. Hey, you like Trump or you like Biden. Hey, you know what? That's your political opinion. Hey, you didn't get vaccinated. That's your freaking personal medical choice. What happened to acceptance on those parts, when everybody wants to all of a sudden be acceptance of LGBTQ, fnb and Z and all these things? They all want to be accepted and everything's acceptable. But as soon as you're like, well, I don't think acceptable, fuck you, you're an asshole. Fuck you. I mean you're a racist. What the fuck happened.
Speaker 2:You know what, man, I try not to even like get caught up in those things that I can't control. For me it's just a, it's an energy leak, and I really just try to tap into my own life and I got peace. Right now, my life is uneventful and I love it. I love how, I love where I'm at right now. You're a boring guy. I love it. Yeah, it's the best bro. So boring, you know, yeah, and if you come from a toxic environment, then you get used to that, thinking that's fucking life, but it's not life.
Speaker 1:And you know I'm fucking around when I say that boring, because, to be honest, I'm happiest, of course, when I'm just fucking being chill.
Speaker 2:Because you feel safe. You feel you feel like you can be who you are.
Speaker 1:I agree, I ain't fucking going to a club or some bullshit, or even a bar, like I mean once in a blue month, but only when the readers are played at the rate of bar. No, yeah, I think, yeah, I think. I think that that what we're talking about. See, I need to go global now. Alpha brain, joe Rogan he says, he fucking says that she works. No, I ginkled. Global works. I took that shit for a minute.
Speaker 2:So you were like sharp.
Speaker 1:You're like sharper, but I felt sharp to be honest, yeah, yeah, it's just a. It's a regular Herb, herb or herb. Yeah, no, it's herb Dean, herb Dean, herb, dean.
Speaker 2:You know, like herb Can we talk?
Speaker 1:to herb lately. Tell him I said what's up man? Hey, what's up herb? I try to say hi to him. He stopped the fight.
Speaker 2:I don't think I take it like that Temeric and ginger Temeric.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I just try to say that because you correct me on her herb. No, I don't even know how to pronounce like you know how people on Kowenga they pronounce it Kuhunga. Yeah, you ever heard that. Kuhunga Boulevard, kuhunga, temeric or turmeric, acai or kahi. You never heard that. No, tomato tomato, bro, there you go. Tomato tomato, caesar or Cesar. She liked that. Now we're getting out of topic here, but actually not really, hey man.
Speaker 2:Good work on the podcast, bro. Yeah, seriously, I know I mentioned this before, but keep doing it, man. You got to keep plugging away on it. Yeah, I know it takes a lot of your time and you got to be consistent with it, but I think you found your niche, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's a lot of work and I'm glad and I'm happy. Where I've done it, I've done it for now over a year or something. Now here, in several months, it will be two years. Next year, in June, I think, june. When was it that we started June?
Speaker 2:Oh, last year, June of last year, yeah, you had a young lady on there. I think she was like a therapist.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, normal yeah she was dropping some gems.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she was speaking my language.
Speaker 1:I know she was yeah, she's actually just, I wouldn't say quit, but she left. She was working for, I believe, the city, meaning like LAUSD or some kind of school, and she started her own therapy program and whatnot, and she has a partner on another program. She does seminars, she does therapy, she does different things, and so she's talked a lot about boundaries and trauma and generational trauma.
Speaker 2:She was talking my language, man. I was like, okay, she's done the work on herself and she's sharing it with our peeps.
Speaker 1:And you know what the other thing is. What she's doing is she's tapping into the Hispanic culture.
Speaker 2:That's why some of my our peeps, that's why you did that.
Speaker 1:I was on the show.
Speaker 2:That's exactly why because we, we fucking eat it yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm hoping that her prices are reasonable because I think a lot of the times with our peeps we look at fucking money and it's tight right now in this, in this world in general, it's shit, it's tight. But therapy is not cheap unless you know, unless you're getting it paid through and somewhere to work. But if you're doing private and you're doing your own thing, it's not cheap. But everything is how you look at things and what you want to invest. It's not cheap either to go out and fucking spend $300 a ticket to go see fucking bad bunny, either.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. It's not and and but we I know you and I have had this discussion you have to invest in yourself. If you want different, you have to do different, because the tools that you will learn from therapy or other other things, like join her program or other people's programs is you're going to learn the tools to deal with adversity in life and to understand yourself, and the the byproduct of that is showing up as the best version of yourself.
Speaker 1:You know what we should do is bring her on. All three of us have a combo.
Speaker 2:Bro, that would be dope. She knows her stuff yeah.
Speaker 1:Alright, norma, if you're listening, this is a personal invite from EASense and myself again to come back beyond the show so we can talk a little bit more about what you're doing and let's dive into a little bit more of the process of how we can help and maybe put a voice out there a little bit more through your social media, my social media and EASense. To get you back to the point I'm gonna go back on here and then maybe anybody else that you have. I know you have a partner, but I will tag you on this so you can listen to it. Yeah, cool, what else? What else? What else are you doing here? You ready to leave? You don't have to go, I don't know, it's not like I got a job or anything.
Speaker 2:Oh, you got a job, Nah bro.
Speaker 1:Hey, I got a job. Huh yeah, no, I think that's pretty much it. I mean, I'm having fun, we're just conversing. We had some dialogue.
Speaker 2:I know you didn't.
Speaker 1:Oh, you know, what I want to dive into really quick before I let you go here, is we talked about spirituality and religion and all that and faith, but we didn't really get into it. I know you talked about spirituality but, like me personally, well, do you believe in the afterlife? Do you believe in like once you died? Do you go somewhere, do you come back or I believe if okay.
Speaker 2:so my thought is this I don't know if this is gonna answer your question, but because we do have energy within us, we physically die. That energy does go somewhere into the universe. So what comes from that? I don't know, bro. You know, I don't want to say something where I say, oh yeah, I do believe in an afterlife, for my own personal security, to think like, oh yeah, there is an afterlife, but yeah, I don't know, I am still not there yet. Yeah, you know. So I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I think I believe the same thing that you do, meaning like I think we're a host, right, we're a body of host of minerals, molecules, different things going on. I think I read somewhere that we're only 50 or 60% human and the rest is molecules and minerals and things in our bodies that aren't human Energy and things that are going on yeah. I mean we're one big cell hosting smaller cells, right, and it's so complex, but so simple.
Speaker 2:And there's energy transfers too.
Speaker 1:Correct yeah. I'm holding my hand right now so I can try to translate anything I made.
Speaker 2:That's not my hand, homie, oh, okay.
Speaker 1:I know that button, but yeah, I think the energy goes somewhere for sure. I mean, it's like anything else. If they say something in motion keeps, you know, an object in motion stays in motion, an object of rest stays in rest, and so for motion, if our energy is in motion and once we die it has to go somewhere. But if there is another life that we come into, another host that we reach and get into, I don't know, maybe you know, I don't know, but that would be cool. You know, they always say you come back at something, something else you know, maybe a, a picture of a moscow, a moscow, a barrel, you know whatever. But like you don't know, your energy could go into another host. We're in there. It could be. I have no fucking idea.
Speaker 2:I mean nobody knows.
Speaker 1:That's why the whole thing is like people are preaching some shit. How the fuck do you know You've been there? Homies Like I always ask hey, you've been there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know I mean the reality of it is. I'm a realist more than anything else. I'm also a guy that believes in science, right. So I like in question science, but like because science will say like oh, no human can ever run under a four minute mount. Well, fuck you. Boom, it got done. Like, oh, fuck these things just lost.
Speaker 2:My daughter dropped that on me like a couple years ago and I was like no way, no one has ever run. She's like no dad, somebody ran a four minute mount. I was like no, they did.
Speaker 1:That's impossible Under a four minute mount Under a four minute mount.
Speaker 2:She went going and I was wrong. But everything, people are going to see things through their own lens of their own experiences. Right, we could be looking at that water bottle right there and you're going to look at it a certain way and I'm going to be like what the fuck is this guy? No, it's not a water bottle. It's X, y and Z. You know what I mean. So it's a host of water. It's just a host.
Speaker 1:It's a host of water. It's hosting the water and keeping it contained so that it may not contain it. Be water, be water, my friend, be water, my friend. Yeah, man Speaking on that religion and all that, I mean I guess what so we can like finish this thing. I guess what? Sometimes, either I get confused on or what I hate is people will pray on some shit.
Speaker 2:Your puppy orders.
Speaker 1:She's cool, they'll pray on some shit is like if I pray hard enough, then it's going to happen, and I go no, I mean you can pray, but why don't you fucking move and then take action, and then it'll happen. Like I think there's a story of this person. This person is on a boat and they go overboard and they're drowning in the fucking person on top throws like a life thing and goes no, god's going to save me, right?
Speaker 1:Oh fuck, he throws him a boat no, god's going to save me. Then he throws him the oars no, I don't need a guy's going to save me. And the guy drowns. It's like yeah, well, god will send you those signs so that you can use them. And that's what's God doing, the work, and that's the whole thing. Like I believe in that, that there's signs for movement and there's signs for that. But those that just sit in silence and pray and believe that everything's going to change if you pray, I'll be honest with you, she ain't going to change unless you fucking put in the work about something.
Speaker 2:No, but that's where meditation comes in Right, that's where you have to sit and listen to where you're being called to go. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah, because, actually, because that source energy is within you, listening to yourself and not listening to the opinions of others of how you should run. Let's say, uag fit, oh, you should be doing this, you should be branding it like this, or you need to get a professional camera person or or an IT person to brand your shit like this. All that's all noise, but when you sit with yourself, you can listen to that voice and say, okay, this is the path I'm going to take, that's the path that God wants me to go on, but then, putting into action what you're going to do. You have to put into action. Yeah, she can't just manifest. I want to fucking mansion. No, you got to do the fucking work. Bro, get a month.
Speaker 2:God gave you the skills to get that mansion. You have to have a mind, a body, a soul to do the work. To get that, you got to do the work, you got to do the work, you got to do the work, bro, hard work, yeah, dedication, hard work, dedication, all right.
Speaker 1:Mayweather, mayweather, boxing when I promote his brand. I don't think he fucking needs it.
Speaker 2:He needs it. The highest grossing athlete, I think, last year bro.
Speaker 1:No shit, really Fuck. Yeah, he's doing something right. I appreciate you, man. Thank you for coming on the show. Kevin Borghett was my mother. There was some good dialogue today.
Speaker 2:I felt comfortable like being at home again.
Speaker 1:Actually, I am at home. I feel like I was wearing my old socks. Those are dirty socks. I watched them, thank you. Were they the socks? Were they low or above the calf? Oh, cholo socks, which ones were they?
Speaker 2:It's not my style, bro. Pre-berkeley or Pro-Berkeley or Pro-Berkeley? My Birkin socks? Nah, I was wearing my ankle socks, your ankle socks, with a little bolita on the back With a little bolita Coming out of the Nike Cortez.
Speaker 1:Did you wear Nike Cortez?
Speaker 2:Fuck no man, you did.
Speaker 1:From the.
Speaker 2:West Side, bro, we don't wear Cortez on the.
Speaker 1:West Side, we just wear Vans.
Speaker 2:I mean when I was a young buck, yes, but as I got older it was either Jays, Air Max, maybe some Air Force ones, but they had to be clean.
Speaker 1:We were wearing no dirty shoes. That's how vain we were. I wore the black one, the black and white, nike Cortez, those were cool.
Speaker 2:You wore those. That's a via thing, huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess, so you could get away with it. That's cool. Eat your own bro.
Speaker 2:I wasn't living the thug passion life. You know what I'm saying. We were trend setters over here.
Speaker 1:bro, that shit didn't catch up out of there on the West Side. That wasn't my world.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you guys are different. Yeah, definitely, we got to march to our own beat out there on the West Side. Shout out to the West Side. This is the beat. What's up? This is the beat. No, we had a beat like oh look at you Beatboxing over here, here we go, baby hey what are you listening to right now? What kind of music? I always like to ask you what your music is.
Speaker 1:Right now. Today I was listening to Counting Crows the old school album, like 1990-something album and then I started listening to Money Bag Yo, and I'm always throwing in Morgan Wallin and Chris David. How about you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, morgan Wallin's a shit. What are you listening to? A lot of Nas. Do you always listen to Nas? Yeah, nas, chili peppers and. Oh yeah, I went to Every now and then you got to switch it. It's a lot of chili peppers and Taylor Swift, or what You're a Swifty Do.
Speaker 1:My daughter just went to that concert, I know, with all the fucking things around her arm and the wrist.
Speaker 2:Oh my God bro, I'm actually a little Swifty, undercover Swifty.
Speaker 1:Post Malone just came out with an album, but I don't know if I like it, it's a vibe, it's different. I did listen to it. I'm a Post fan. I like Posty, I like Posty.
Speaker 2:But yeah who else.
Speaker 1:Money Bag Yo. Who am I listening to?
Speaker 2:Money Bag Yo From Wiz Khalifa, oh, from the Weekend, yeah, weekend has a new one coming out. Looking forward to that shit, little Dirk, I'm not like oh, he's got that song with. He's a little commercial, too commercial right now for me.
Speaker 1:Oh, and in country music I'm gonna throw out my guy here that I've been listening to. Again, I'm fucking Latino Texas guy that he's been in a lot of slack from the Wettos saying that he's not real country. Louis the Singer I'm not familiar with that. Yeah, louis the Singer is making a lot of noise. He's got a good song, let me see. Come and take it. Come and take it. Yeah, no, he's basically saying that a lot of people say, oh, you're not fucking real country. He's like what are you talking about? A rugged root or fucking the guy by? Yet was in the Cowboys, have been around forever, homies, and it's a cool song and he has a video and he's like hey, you guys are all gonna get upset, but fuck it, come and take it. Come and take it from me. That's fucking cool, it's real cool. It sounds aggressive. Wow, yeah, this isn't no passive shit, it's coming out strong. Anyways, all right, brother.
Speaker 1:Hey thank you for your time. Appreciate you, appreciate you more, my brother, keep doing your thing, yeah, yeah, since hey, sir. Thank you everybody for listening.
Speaker 2:We appreciate you. What can they find?
Speaker 1:bro, what can they find? You Find me. Let me see what you can find me. You can find me in the garage, on the trails, in the gym or around my house. There was nothing. You can find me at UIG fit, uig fit. You can find me at UIG fit and those people that obviously follow it. Thank you very much. I hope you guys enjoyed this conversation and remember if you're going through some shit or whatnot, you can't be broken.
Speaker 2:Yes sir, no sir, Thank you.
