What if reconnecting with people from different chapters of our lives could help us grow both personally and professionally? Join me as I sit down with my old friend Travis Arsenault, a former Division One baseball player, husband, father, and owner and CEO of TAG Investments Real Estate Company. We walk down memory lane, reminiscing about our early baseball experiences and discussing how those lessons on the field have shaped our lives and relationships.
In this heartfelt episode, we also explore Travis's recent diagnosis of stage three colon cancer, diving into the emotional rollercoaster he and his wife faced during this challenging time. We discuss the importance of being proactive about our health and how Travis has chosen to approach this situation with Love. Tune in as we uncover the power of gratitude and love in the face of adversity and how embracing our mortality can lead to personal growth.
Finally, we delve into the evolution of success, self-evaluation, overcoming failure, and the significance of finding support in our lives. As Travis shares his journey of failure in sales and how he persevered, you'll see that anything is possible with the right mindset and approach to challenges. Don't miss out on this incredible episode filled with inspiration, valuable life lessons, and a heartfelt conversation with Travis Arsenault.
What if reconnecting with people from different chapters of our lives could help us grow both personally and professionally? Join me as I sit down with my old friend Travis Arsenault, a former Division One baseball player, husband, father, and owner and CEO of TAG Investments Real Estate Company. We walk down memory lane, reminiscing about our early baseball experiences and discussing how those lessons on the field have shaped our lives and relationships.
In this heartfelt episode, we also explore Travis's recent diagnosis of stage three colon cancer, diving into the emotional rollercoaster he and his wife faced during this challenging time. We discuss the importance of being proactive about our health and how Travis has chosen to approach this situation with Love. Tune in as we uncover the power of gratitude and love in the face of adversity and how embracing our mortality can lead to personal growth.
Finally, we delve into the evolution of success, self-evaluation, overcoming failure, and the significance of finding support in our lives. As Travis shares his journey of failure in sales and how he persevered, you'll see that anything is possible with the right mindset and approach to challenges. Don't miss out on this incredible episode filled with inspiration, valuable life lessons, and a heartfelt conversation with Travis Arsenault.
What up, what up, what up, and welcome to another episode of the can't be broken podcast. I am your host, seamonster, and today I have a special guest, a good friend of mine, somebody.
Speaker 1:I've known for over 30 years, since I was watching my brother play college ball at this great school here, community college. He was a pitcher on the team and that team was special to me. It helped me grow a lot. But he's just a friend of mine, a division a former division one baseball player at the University of Santa Barbara, the gouchos. He's a husband of father and owner and CEO of tag investments real estate company and he has recently been diagnosed with stage three polling counselor. Welcome to the show, brother Travis Arsenal.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much for being here thanks, yeah, i appreciate you having me on. Man. I've a long time fan been watching and watching your shows and listening to your podcast for a while. You've been doing some good stuff. I was excited when you asked me to come on.
Speaker 1:I appreciate it, brother. Now, man, you know it's so weird the time that you and I we grew up in how sometimes you lose communication with people, we didn't have cell phones and technology and it wasn't until, i think, my space came around and then Facebook and all these little different things, that people started reconnecting, and so I think it's a great thing. I think we've all reconnected with people that we, you know, went on their own ways. As you're growing up, you're doing your own thing, you're building your own family, you're building your own, you know your own career and stuff, but I'm so blessed to have continued the relationship with you and and that we've reconnected and stay in touch and know our families and we're we're at, you know absolutely, man.
Speaker 2:Social media is a powerful thing. It reconnects different lives and different chapters of your life. Even you know you talking about you talking about playing at Pierce, and, and different aspects and times in your life, in our lives. You know it. It's important to remember who you were during those different times, because that's where you've come from. Yeah, you know and and and. When you talk about Pierce and you talk about playing ball there and how all that went down for all of us, it was. It was a powerful time for all the people that were playing on that organization, that team. That team was was very unique and and so and. So we look at. We look at who I was, or who we were when we were going through that time frame, and how that influenced the rest of us. You know, and now this is a big influence on my life, for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so funny. I mean I wasn't on that team because you were playing with my brother and you know you guys were a little bit older, but it taught me when I went there after you guys I mean that that word together with you know what you guys started. You know after it wasn't like hey, when it wasn't you know dramas, it was together. And that still goes on as far as I know now to this day. So it's an impact that that team, i think how it evolved from different, different people on that team, right from Ricky Banuelos.
Speaker 2:Different characters right that all that have all escalated and done different things with their careers and their lives, all powerful and again they all look back at that time frame and remember what was capable to a bunch of kids that they told was no way that we were gonna be able to do it.
Speaker 1:And I was just. I was a spectator, bro, i was a fan and I'm like that's where I want to go, that's what I want and especially my brother. I always wanted to, you know, follow my brother's footsteps.
Speaker 2:So Your brother was. Your brother was a legend there. In his own mind In his own mind. Yeah, yeah, i know you guys got your thing.
Speaker 1:He is a legend. I love him man. He's a great person, great human being, before anything else and so yeah, but he played the game. Well, you know.
Speaker 2:Yes, he did. He played the game well and there were a lot of individuals that played the game well there. Absolutely absolutely, and I think we all took a little bit of each one of those talents and tried to make them our own, you know, and tried to make them a part of our, our, our role of dex of talent that we would play with Right right, exactly.
Speaker 1:So to our listeners here, just kind of jumping on right here to all everybody, a little bit of where you're from, where you grew up, who you are and what you've been up to until now.
Speaker 2:Sure, i'm actually. So my name is Travis Arsenault and I grew up back east. I'm actually a Boston kid. I grew up in England, yeah, and, and I moved out here when I was just about in junior high and been here ever since. But been all over the coast, man, i've been up and down this California, of this state a lot I've been in lived in San Diego, santa Barbara, san Francisco. Now I'm living in the Inland Empire, just outside of OC, and you know it. Just it's been, it's been a blessing.
Speaker 2:I've been very, very blessed to be able to experience different communities, different types of you know areas and cities and climates, play ball in all of those cities, just about, and you know, and just live a good life. I I'm very happy with where I am today. You know, i'm just comfortable in my own skin. You know we've we developed my family, my wife and I developed, you know, our real estate business and we've had a successful real estate business for over 25 years where you know, a lot of people fall out in this business. It's not something that a lot of people can continue to do. So I feel very blessed that I've been able to maintain that and and there's a lot of good things that come from that. You know a lot of good pieces that come from it.
Speaker 2:I, i, i have, throughout my entire career and growing up I have continuously remained coached. I'm always coached. Right now, i have two or three coaches I'm working with. I'm always trying to find new talent. I'm in a mentorship program right now. That, you know, is important to me, that you know there's a community of people there that are working together to try, and, you know, build, make themselves better people, yeah, and so I'm always hunting out the, the new drive drive train. You know I want, i want to find. I want to find where the talent's going no, that's perfect.
Speaker 1:I mean, you never want to stay stagnant. You always want to be better, because one of the things I always say you know I always preach is be better, learn something, be 1% better, 0.00% better. Learn something you know and and surround yourself with those people that are going to make you better, and you're going to make them better and you're going to bring something to the table. So that's awesome.
Speaker 2:You're always you know, if you think back on the times that you had success in your lives or my life, my life, for sure and I look back and I look at the people that I'm surrounded by, i'm always looked at. You look at the people. You know the five people that you're you're with most. Yeah, that's where you're going right and you know you you're. If you're hanging out with five million years, you'll be the sixth. There's no question about it. And and then you know that, watched it happen. And so very early on in my real estate career, when I got started for a while, i did it by my own, on my own, trying to figure it out, just trying to run the business myself, figure out things, and I knew it wasn't working. So I just decided that I needed to go find some coaching into people, find some people that had done some things that I hadn't done yet. Right, and and I just stuck right next to.
Speaker 2:Hey mind if I shadow you for a while, you know what I mean it and it just develops into different kind of skills and different skill sets 100%, 100%.
Speaker 1:You said you had moved the early on from Boston. You don't have the accent anymore, obviously no, it's a choice.
Speaker 2:Just anybody that you know that has that accent. They choose to keep it oh, there you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's, you're right. And so then, are you an LA fan, are you like a Boston fan for certain things, for like sports, or?
Speaker 2:I'm a Celtics fan. That's where I draw the well. I'm a Celtics and a Patriot fan. I follow the Patriots too. Okay, but I those two teams I follow because I grew up watching them. You know what I mean. I can remember when my great great grandfather took me to Fenway Park and I can barely see it over the dashboard and I can remember coming around a corner and just seeing, just seeing Fenway just lit up. Yeah, i just think it was like a cathedral. You know where I wanted?
Speaker 2:to be man, that's why I wanted to spend my time. Yeah, but yeah, so Boston, that's about where I draw the line. I'm more. I'm like you. I can almost guarantee you the same way. You do have a team or two teams or so that you follow, but you follow talent, you follow the athletes. We're athletes, man, we can't. I don't have to follow owners yeah, exactly, yeah, i follow.
Speaker 1:I follow the person in baseball or in any sport, the person that plays the sport well, like meaning that honors the game you know, and uses all tools all tools, honors the game, honors himself, plays the game correctly, is always ready, is always prepared, is always anticipating.
Speaker 1:And, to be honest with you, the guy that's doing it probably the best right now is Freddie Freeman. I love how he, how he attacks the game, how he's present, how he's focused, how he's. There's never anything bad said about him. He's a family man, he's ready on every pitch. He's. He's just that guy that you're like dude. Does this guy, like you, know anything bad to say about him?
Speaker 2:nope, that's Freddie Freeman right, and you know, and the guys, and that matters to you, yeah, and that and that should matter to more, right, i mean it really should. It really should matter to more. But but you can't ask people to see pass where they're their own, you know restrictions or help where they keep it, where they keep themselves 100, and so you're, you're in your desire to grow, desire. You need to find those tools right. Right, when we want to grow, we got to find new tools. You know you want to find out. You want to find out what you're good at, or you want to find out, actually, you want to find out what you're not good at.
Speaker 2:Take a look at what your children aren't good at, look at what they don't do that well and that they struggle with, and those are your struggles too, right. Those are usually the things that they haven't been able to see the completion picture on it yet, you know. And so when we're talking about trying to improve ourselves, i, you know it's important to do that self-evaluation. Where am I today? what am I what? what are my strengths and where am I? where are my weaknesses? and this has been something that has come from this cancer thing that it's like it's almost mind-blowing how how it takes you to a different level, like I swear I say it almost every day I'm going to be a better man, a better father and a better husband just because I look at the world differently today than I did before this hit.
Speaker 1:You know, and you probably see a lot of that going through it with your dad yeah, yeah, i think you said something really really great there, which is self-evaluation right on a daily basis, but the problem is with some people is they're scared of that oh my god they don't like the results.
Speaker 1:They're not gonna like the results exactly and they're scared to look at that and go, no, no, not, and a lot of people just put it away. And they put it away and the reality is you have to, you have to confront it. You have to confront that.
Speaker 2:You have to confront the fear of like what it's gonna tell you, because it's the truth and the truth might hurt, but it's gonna make you a better person, you know yeah, absolutely, and and you know it, it, i don't know I think it's as I get older perhaps, you know, when I get older and I start to think about things differently, i don't look at any negative situation as though that's where it stays.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. It's never like oh, you know, i can't get through this, i can't get through this exercise, or I can't get to the gym, and let's just say I can't get to the gym in the morning or whatever, And you're trying to figure out a way to get it done and you've got to flip it around. You know what I mean. You've got to find the positive in it. Okay, so maybe I'm not a morning guy and I need to be an afternoon guy or whatever. Whatever the case may be, but every bad situation that now comes to me I see as an opportunity to get better, and so that's how I try and teach my children, how I try and run my team and help my business and just carry myself in general.
Speaker 2:You carry yourself in general that way out in society right now and the whole world's going to react differently.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100. Now you said you had played ball and kind of a little bit everywhere. once you came down from Boston. You're talking about baseball. Did you play any other sports? And then at what age did you start and kind of what level did you go to? You went to Division 1 baseball, for sure, but tell a little bit about that journey and how that helped you kind of grow in different ways, you know, and maybe your business as well.
Speaker 2:But I was. So there is a story and it is a good one, and when I was very young, i was in Little League playing in Massachusetts, back in Boston, and I was really blessed. I was put on a team that was an expansion team Right, and what do you think when you? what's the first thing you think when you hear expansion team? You're going to take a little bit of talent from every team right And this is in Little League.
Speaker 2:Now, Don't forget, I got kids that are giving you you know shit on the, you know in school and stuff about what team you play for And all the teams are known, Right, They're all really well known in this particular Little League And so we're an expansion team. Team was SS landscape And so that team the coach that they found for that team was his name was Rick Miller. He was an old Orioles player. He played ball for the Orioles in the bigs.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So he came in and took this team of these rag tag kids and just cracked them into shape. We were doing double days in Little League. I mean, we had, we had a. We had a practice schedule to show us how to put on our uniforms.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:You're talking about. I'm seven, eight, nine years old And they're teaching me how to present myself on the field. You know what I mean Talking about role.
Speaker 1:That's detail. Though That's detail, that's, i mean, just completing the pros.
Speaker 2:But that's what you did, like it changed everything for me. It changed everything for me. It showed me how to win Right. We won, we went undefeated.
Speaker 2:We were that we, we yeah, he cracked us into shape that well And and we, and then I went on in Little League and I was almost when we were approaching the Little League World Series, like two, three games back. I think everybody's got that story, that Little League. We were great little league but we were pretty good And you know, and so it's always kind of continued that way, the kids that I played on that Little League team with I'm still friends today with it, connected with them all through social media, and you know, and it's it's interesting to see where they've taken their lives and what and how and how that core memory right, that core memory and that core situation is developed into their lifestyle and the things that they've done and where, how they raise their families. You know what I mean. We all have it, it's all embedded in us.
Speaker 2:And so that was really that was a blessing. And then from there I went on played just like everybody else played. American Legion played in, some played in a lot of, a lot of winter league ball played. I played a summer in front Royal Virginia in an Invitational League with Mike Borzolo one of my good, good friends.
Speaker 2:It just been, you know, i mean, i've always, i've been blessed to always have somebody looking out, right. So you know, and I can say that all the way across the board. you know, little League with my coaches, and then American Legion people trying to hook, you know, take care of us in the Valley. You know I was playing for Woodland Hills, you know, and so all those coaches, the Swartz Senators and all the people that we played with and played again, maybe even a little bit too old for you, but but those guys all looked after each other and always tried to help each other advance up and up and up, and you know so. so you know the coach I'm going to talk about with Pierce, you know, and you know, yeah, and Bobo and he was a guy that I called.
Speaker 2:I went to San Francisco State out of high school and I went up there to play ball and it was too damn cold for me. I didn't like the area. It was raining all the time. The field was in a really bad area. It was in the Sunset District in San Francisco, which is raining constantly, and so it was foggy and cold and it was I'm a so-cal guy man. That was the wrong move for me.
Speaker 1:You know, and so.
Speaker 2:So I called Bob and I asked him. You know, i asked a coach and I said, hey, i'm thinking about coming home. You want to do this? And he said, yeah, let's do it. We started to build the team and, you know, started doing our recruiting and talking to the people that we knew that were talented during that timeframe and taking the best that we could find and building a patchwork crew And we went and took it to him, you know, and so that was a great experience for me That catapulted my career.
Speaker 2:At that time I was scouted heavily by a few different schools, but nothing too too crazy, until Santa Barbara came into play. Santa Barbara came into play and they wanted, they were interested in me. They came out to watch me play up there at Santa Barbara CC And I went in and I think I threw a, two hitter or something and they offered me a full ride. And so I was. You know, i was blessed to be able to have that come about, because I probably never would have been able to do the things I did. You know, i lived in Santa Barbara, i lived on the beach for a while, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Yeah, i was living the life.
Speaker 1:What was that burrito place right there Del?
Speaker 2:Mar you mean.
Speaker 1:No right, in Santa Barbara that was that famous big old burritos that they used to sell.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Jaybirds. Jaybirds no.
Speaker 2:Jaybirds, Jaybirds, Jaybirds or something like that. Jaybirds that used to be.
Speaker 1:Jaybirds, man, those were good, those were good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, free birds.
Speaker 1:That was it There was free birds, Free birds man Yeah.
Speaker 2:I know. So that was an amazing experience and ball took me a lot of places. You know, ball took me a lot of places and met a lot of people. I played in the WBC also the World Baseball Conference. I played in three World Series with them when I was there with the foresters Very, very talented off season team and just a lot of fun. You know, just a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it's so amazing how, at any age, a coach, a mentor, a person, your parent, who really can shape your life and transcend it in different ways. I mean you still remember how this coach from who played with the Orioles, came in teaching you how to dress right? The little things, the small detailed things that matter to be a winner, to be at that level. Kids that I train now don't get it. They just want to show up and play, they want to hit a baseball throw, they want to have fun. I said, bro, you got to show up early, you got to hit the gym, you got to sleep correctly, you got to eat correctly, you got to do everything outside the field and then on the field, like it's a total package. And that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:Freddy Freeman does it right, you know, and it starts this. My brother always just used to say he says if you look good, you play good, right, right, that's that thing. You know the thing. If you play good, they pay good. You know, kind of one of those. And it started with the way you look. And I think that coach realized that and says, hey, you guys look like maybe aren't playing well right now, but we're going to look good and we're going to get you better And it and it shows because you feel better as well. You got that confidence that you're going to take on to the field. You know, let's tell the audience a little bit about how either sports, baseball or some of the coaches influenced you and how you grew up and where it's taking you and how it's helped you build this business. You know, what did you take away from either, like baseball, either the competitiveness, the teamwork or whatnot Like? how did it help you grow?
Speaker 2:But you know what It's funny when I there's another mentor that I have in my life that I worked with also too, and he was actually a college athlete also, and so he was, he played ball, he played baseball, i played at UNLV, and so working side by side with him created a real, a real competitive environment that we had within the office and within our area too, and so I recognize pretty early on that if you take that same thing that you learned on the field and you bring it to the office, it's a winning combination, i mean you can't lose right Teach competitiveness amongst the coworkers, create an edge, you know, have competitions, you know contests, things like that, for people to try and strive to earn and win, and it's the same thing that we've always been learning right, You do better when you treat people kindly.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. It's all the same rules, there's no difference, it's all the same business. And if you take that same business, if you take that same winning attitude that you had on the baseball field to an office space or you know a real estate transaction hopefully you know the results come out the same Yeah it seems like the word almost compete or competition has been demonized a little bit, like in today's you know times.
Speaker 1:Now it's like, oh well, we're all winners And I get it right, like but you have to compete And that doesn't mean you're beating somebody or you're competing against them, but it means compete with yourself just to be better, and compete to make the other person better because that's going to make your team better. But it seems like today's society sometimes demonizes its word and goes like no, we're not competing, everybody's a winner.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying, you know, they should show fees, but everybody is a winner And you know how everybody wins when you compete to win the day, to make the other person better.
Speaker 2:That's what we're talking about 100%, and there's so many things that have gotten in the way of that. You know there's so many things that have gotten in the way of it that the internet, for one, for me, is the big one, and I know that sounds old fashioned, i sound like I'm an you know, an old man when I say shit like that. But think about for a second the instant gratification that you can get. You and I could get online right now and we could order anything we wanted to deliver to our house. You could have an elephant delivered to your house right now if you wanted to. Hey, you took the time to look for it, could you not find one? Yeah, and it could be delivered to your home, probably within about three hours.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's the problem with society They think. They think shit's going to show up by DoorDash everywhere. I want my career to show up at DoorDash. I want my athletic career to show up at DoorDash, right. How do I order this? Where do I get stage? you know, i want to be a good athlete, you know. Or business person, right. If they're not, if they're not seeking, you have to seek success daily, every single day. You cannot get up and just coast, unless you want to get passed up. You know what I mean And that's fine, but there are days that I coast. Don't let me get to that. Don't let me maybe sound like you know I'm some superhero, because I'm definitely not, especially right now, but you know. But I do know what it takes and I do know the formula. And once you learn the formula, it never goes away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i think one of the things I tell my clients a lot is look, you want this, but did you earn it? Was it given to you? Do you want to go the easy way or are you earning it? So, like? I always tell people like, maybe some of the clients are trying to lose weight, right, And they're like, well, i did good this week, okay, cool, but are you there yet? Like, did you earn where you wanted to be? If you haven't earned it, if, like, let's say, you want a burger, or you're like, oh my god, i want this burger. Okay, did you earn it? Did you earn it? And if the answer is no, then don't have it, don't take it, don't, you can't have it. You know what I'm saying? Because people want, they want because they can have it.
Speaker 1:But, that's the issue.
Speaker 2:That's where the problem falls right, because the want hits the head and the fun you know, and there's no button to find it. You know what I mean. They don't know where it is And I commend you for what you handle, because teaching that, teaching athleticism, or that mindset connected with the physical side, is not an easy training. You got to want it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i mean I grew up vertically challenged. So I grew up vertically challenged, you know I had to. I had to, you know I had to earn a lot of stuff and and because I went you've earned it all Thank you.
Speaker 1:But you know, because I have, and I continue to, I love it. I love fighting for what is mine, you know, and it has a special meaning in my heart, And I wish more people could understand that they need to fight for what's theirs And it's it's. It's more pleasurable that way as well, when you earn something, rather than it's given to you And so people have to fight for it. But the problem is, like we talked earlier, is people are willing to fight because it's a tough battle at times, And so they're like I could just have it this way instead And they press that button, you know.
Speaker 2:It's, it's a. It's an easier fight if they know they can win. Yeah, i mean, if they have, if they've won before. Yeah, that's the first place you go And and then you know. But recent successes are important too, you know, for people to feel connected and to feel like they're making the right moves. But that's, i'm sure that's, that's your specialty.
Speaker 1:Well, let's talk about the, let's talk about fighting and what's going on in your life right now. In regards to you, were recently diagnosed last year with stage three colon cancer. Yeah, and tell us a little bit about how that happened, how you found out and what were your early thoughts then compared to now.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I appreciate you asking these questions because this is a topic that can help other people And that's something that I've always really wanted this to do And that's kind of why I've taken my story to where I've taken it as far as being public about it. You know what I mean. Just about the fight. But December 20th I was diagnosed Well before that. Let's get into, like, how it came about, because I think that there's probably people that are going to listen to this that need to hear what I have to say about.
Speaker 2:For about six months prior to my doctor appointment on December 20th, which was for a colonoscopy, an emergency colonoscopy But for about six months prior to that, I was suffering. My stomach was a wreck, I was an absolute mess and I attributed all of it to stress. I was involved in two particular flips. At the time. I was running my office and having a lot of different things going up and down And I was just like I'm just stressed out, That's all it is. Just keep moving, Just keep moving. You know, And I knew from my own self diagnosis I was having stomach problems. I was in the restroom all the time. No, it's not a great subject, but you got to hear it. I was in the restroom all the time and I couldn't keep food in my system. It was just running through me.
Speaker 1:Was it different than my stomach flu or virus or something? Did you feel different or kind of the same?
Speaker 2:I self-diagnosed myself with. I thought I either had a small. What was it? It was either a small cyst from stress, what do they call it? Not like a, i don't know, but I thought I had stress-related challenges in my stomach.
Speaker 1:It felt different than something else, though I thought it was.
Speaker 2:IBS Irritable Bowel Syndrome is what I thought I had, and that's where I kind of just put it back on the shelf until I was done with this stressful time that I was going through and work, because I knew for a fact that, based on my diagnosis and what was going on in my life, that once this did happen I was going to get shut down, they were going to take me off of work, and if I got taken off of work I wouldn't have been able to complete the things that I needed to complete for my family and I.
Speaker 2:So I was trying to stay in it as long as I possibly could, and so I did, but they kept. As I started getting closer to the finalizing of the dates with the sales and things like that, i started going to the doctor, started seeing doctors and seeing, you know, getting some help, and one of the doctors, they did some testing and they came back and they said we need to get you in for colonoscopy right away. And so I went in. My wife and I, my amazing wife was with me, and they give you a local. So when you kind of come to have you ever had one? I don't know if you're not old enough You don't need one.
Speaker 1:No, they want to do one. I have to do one, You have to do one because you're dad for sure, but anyway but the but anyway.
Speaker 2:so they called me in to do it. They did some testing. They came back they said they found some things that they need to do. One was blood. They found blood, and so if you ever see any blood, make sure that you get yourself checked out. You know what I mean. That's not normal, but in regard to this, they, so they.
Speaker 2:I came in on the 20th and they diagnosed me right when I came to. they told my wife and I that I had colon cancer and they even categorized it stage three, which I don't know how they could do it on that first visit anyway, but you know what I mean. But they did. So the 20th, after the, after the exam, they told us, right, they told my wife and I right when we came to, that I had cancer and I had stage three colon cancer, and so I don't know how they determined that there was stage three by just kind of glancing, but they did And it changed everything. I mean, it changes everything. Yeah, the whole world all of a sudden gets to be about, about. yay, big just gets super small.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what was going on Like where was your wife? you guys were both present and got told the news together there and how did that go And what was going through your mind at that, at that time?
Speaker 2:I I don't know if how it was handled was protocol, to be honest, because it was so bizarre how it went down, because they give you a local. So you're kind of half awake, half asleep And I'm kind of groggy and waking up and I look at her. She's there, i grab her hand and I look at the doctor and I'm like how'd it go? And he's like he's like look here, and he shows us on a screen where you know where the, where the tumor is, and he's like, yeah, this right here needs to be addressed. And I'm like, okay, great, what do you do? You go back in there and take it out. You know, i was like go ahead let's go back out.
Speaker 2:I'll lay back down you know like whatever you need. And he's like no, no, this, this, all this is the whole process. Like you need, you need chemo and you need radiation and you need full realization. And I was like I couldn't believe it. I could not believe it. There was no way in the world this was happening to me.
Speaker 1:Everything just slowed down a little bit and like what, where do we go from here? Like what, what are we going to tell the kids? I'm sure there was a lot of things going on in your head through that week, through that day. you know, once you're coming out of this loopy stage, a little bit kind of Remember it was December 28.
Speaker 2:My mom's birthday is December 22nd. Yeah, Christmas.
Speaker 2:On the 24th and the Christmas on the 25th. So I didn't tell anybody. My wife and I just kept it to ourselves for most of the time, until until after the holidays And we told everybody kind of one on one. after the holidays, We told the boys and, and shock, talk with them about it. See, the thing about this is and then this I got to say this early on in this discussion, talking about this whole process this thing has never been terminal for me. The answer has never been a terminal, something that I'm being labeled or categorized or you know what I mean. This isn't something that's going to take my life. This is something that I'm going to take to it. I'm going to take life to it, I'm going to, I'm going to work through it, We're going to get through it and we're going to do this stuff.
Speaker 1:So we need to do it and we're going to prove that it can be done and done well, And so that's how it how did that transpire in your mind, compared to some other people that get diagnosed and they feel like, oh my God, you know, they feel a different way, that it is terminal, sure, they're going to, they're going to fight, right, they're going to do what they need to do, but they have a different perspective. How come you had a different perspective to this?
Speaker 2:It's a great question. It's a great question, the I had a different perspective on this, only because of my outlook on life, only because of the training that we've been talking about, only because of the mindset that I try and put myself in every day. I mean, i work at this every single day. you know, before before this came around, i was exercising every morning, trying to be up and about mindset affirmations. you know what I mean. All of that mind work that I do, visualization, i do a ton of visualization.
Speaker 2:And so that thought is there still, that negative thought, that terminal thought, and I and I labeled it. we labeled it as like this dark fog that travels around behind me and I got to keep moving. So I just keep sticking and moving And I know for a fact if I slow down and stop, it'll consume me, right, but if I don't, and I keep moving, i keep bobbing and weaving through it, it doesn't affect me the way that it should affect me, and it doesn't affect me that, with that mindset, i don't have that negativity like oh I'm doomed type of thing. you know.
Speaker 1:Well, what did you expect when you and your wife were going to tell your kids and your family? you know what was the expectation. And then how did they take it? and was it different than what you expected? or, you know, did they bombard you with questions as well?
Speaker 2:There's a lot of questions, but remember, everything comes down to perception, everything comes down to how you deliver it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:In real estate. For sure, that's one of our biggest lessons is the news is received. How you deliver it Right. So you got to get in their head a little bit and understand what it's going to what. What it's going to take to make them okay with what's going on.
Speaker 1:And we just hear the negative cancer, the word cancer Right, right.
Speaker 2:Right, and we hear it's over.
Speaker 1:You got cancer, it's over.
Speaker 2:It's not like. It's not like I'm coming up with a ton of really great things that are coming up in my life here right now.
Speaker 2:Not everything is going to hold, just to be real about it. But the truth is is that everything comes down to how we perceive it, right. So I've never looked at this as though it was going to take me out. It's always been something that I can grow from and others can too. Right, others can pick up from the experience that I've had and hopefully change their experience somehow to make it better for them. Thank you, thank you so much. Yeah, i deliver it the way that I see it. I tell my boys that this is something that we're getting through together. We're going to work together as a family and circle the wagons and beat it together. Some of my approach is different, about how I approach the whole process too, which has been very helpful. That we should talk about, probably as well. Just again, you talk about how do you approach. Your dad approached it two different ways. First way was different than the second way. First way, he went through it all.
Speaker 1:First one was a surgery and changing his lifestyle habits and monitoring it, which has stayed away for a while, which he had prostate cancer.
Speaker 2:Right, you said he got him super tight, got him well for a while.
Speaker 1:Got well. Second time was stage four, different kind of cancer, and it was aggressive and we had to make a decision quickly and he approached it in a different way, but he still had the same perspective, which was like you and which we had I think it was a lot from our upbringing and him which was we're going to beat this and we're going to fight. This is a thing that we're going to do together, right?
Speaker 2:That changes the game. It changes the game when you're not doing it alone. It changes the game when you have no choice. you got no choice but to be positive. You know what I mean? That's all we're left with Right. We got to fight to that.
Speaker 1:Then obviously started getting to a little bit more detail about how you're going to attack this right. What's the game plan to fight through this? Take somebody that doesn't have colon cancer, doesn't know anything about it, like myself. What does that process look like and what do you do? How long is the process, how long are your treatments and whatnot?
Speaker 2:Right When it gets started. It's starting with the whole process. They're really doing a lot of testing. They build your team, they had to build my team. They had to build a radiologist and a chemo guy and a surgeon. I have three different doctors that are all collaborating together to put together the best process to get through this and beat it. It's funny because they've all got different attitudes. They all have different. You know what I mean. Like my radiologist, he's old school dude. He does just come in and I'll take care of it. I know what I'm doing, you know what I mean. He's got a whole different approach to it And so it takes a moment for you to collaborate that team to get them aligned to doing the things the way that they're supposed to do them right, because there's an order, because see, when your dad had it, they did surgery first, right. Yeah, it's a different approach now. Now they take it a different meaning. They try and shrink down the tumors as much as they can before they cut it out, because cutting it out sooner cuts out a larger portion which has more chances for it to spread. And so the tactical process now is all the chemo and radiation up front And then surgery after when it's all done.
Speaker 2:And so my chemo treatments originally I was supposed to do six. They were successful and I felt good about the process when I was dealing with it. For the most part, i mean, it still sucks. It's cumulative. So as you went through it, you know the chemo as it goes through it gets it's cumulative, it gets stronger, and so the effects are stronger as it gets. Later in the rounds I was supposed to do six, they pushed me to eight. Between seven and eight I got super sick, i got bronchitis and I got some toxins in my blood from the radiation, from the chemo, and just had some stuff that I had to handle. So I had to shut down for about 30 days And now I just I'm in the middle right now of my eighth chemo treatment. I got the treatment in the in the hospital on Monday. Today I get it from home and tomorrow I get it from home and then they take the bag off. I have like a tank that I carry around with me that carries two days of chemotherapy.
Speaker 1:And how is that taken? That's taken intravenously, or Yeah, OK it's intravenously through my chest.
Speaker 2:I have a. I have a port in my chest right here.
Speaker 2:OK so it's. So. It's got a tube that runs down my body and an opening that I can pop an IV needle into at any time, and the IV needle drops off 25 milligrams per hour of chemotherapy in my body for the next three days. So it's just a different way. It's just, you know, old school people had to sit in the doctor's office They had to say every day, to go down and sit in the doctor's office every day for the chemo, and you know what I mean And ride it out. And they're trying to compact it a little bit more. Since covid, i think, they try and make things a little different nowadays.
Speaker 1:Right, right, wow, ok, and then. So you're doing eight. And then what's the process after that?
Speaker 2:After that, i've got two weeks off, and then I start my radiating.
Speaker 1:You're making it sound like I got two weeks off on vacation, or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah right.
Speaker 1:Like I got two weeks off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's not really Well. I mean it is a little bit, and it's hard because it gives you idle time. You know, and the idle time is tough because you're always getting back and forth into stuff. But you know, with the, with the doctor visits and so forth, but you got two weeks, two weeks in between they give you a little breathing room.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I'm probably trying to take my wife somewhere or something at least go out to a nice dinner or something, because she's been working so hard, because she's gone down to a one-man show for the most part. You know she's carrying a lot of the weight, but we're very blessed. You know I'm coming through it. I'm up and about, i've got good spirits and I think I've got a good team that's working hard to beat the thing. So again, i know I'm coming through it. You know, i don't know if I'm going to have to face it again. There may be a chance that that could be the case. But if that is the case, we'll deal with it when it happens.
Speaker 1:So they reevaluate, take a look at the tumor, and then do they do surgery at that point, or what do they do?
Speaker 2:After the radiology, after my radiation treatments, there's 35 radiation treatments and it's every day, monday through Friday, which I don't know why they take the weekends off, but I guess it's for us, for our sanity. You know what I mean. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like charge. I'm like, don't do me a favor, lock me in there for 21 days straight. Just give me everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2:I want it all. I want to go because I want to fight, you know, and I want to get through it. I want it to be over. I want it to be behind me. I want it to be behind my children and my wife. I want my wife's life to go back to normal. You know she deserves that.
Speaker 2:But, you know, i've been really blessed to have some good people around me that have really tried to help me approach this whole thing differently, and it's definitely something that they should be talked about, because you asked about how do you approach everything that goes on. You know, how do you handle it all? I've got a mentor. His name is Joe D, who lives out of Vegas. He's a very successful real estate investor and friend, been a friend of mine for years, and this all comes from my mentor group. These guys are solid Evo. I can't thank you guys enough for all the work that they've done with me, but these guys are all real helpful and caring, and this guy, joe D, went through this a few years back, and so he called me up and said, hey, i want to talk to you about what's going on. How are you doing? And so I was sharing with him what was going on, and I was all me. I'm all. I'm going to kick this team's ass. I'm going to beat it down to the thigh. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:How we get the grip, the grind it out. I'm like I'm going to beat this thing. This thing doesn't have a chance. And he's like OK. Ok, he's like but have you ever thought about maybe taking a different approach to this whole process? And I said, ok, i'm the game. You know what I mean. You've helped me through a lot of other things. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 2:And so we start talking about it And he says you know? he said I went through this same thing And the way I approached it is he's all. I approached everything with love And and I was like what? You know what I mean? Just scratching my head, going at what do you mean? approach everything with love? And he's like. He's like the people you encounter the doctors that help you, your team, your family, the people that clean the bathrooms in the hospitals he's all, they're all dealing with you guys coming out on 24 seven. He's like maybe it's a better way to approach it spiritually for you to come in with gratitude and love. And so that's been my whole thing, the whole time, is that I try and live in gratitude and love, care about the people that care about me and and show them that you know because I'll tell you the truth.
Speaker 2:I've gone through many doctor appointments, many tests and blood tests and all kinds of stuff, And one of those places that they get screwed up all the time is giving blood, man. You know it always happens. Somebody's got a needle wrong, or you know what I mean. Go IV doesn't go in correctly and you're all swollen up and bruised. And those guys hear it from everybody Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:So I started to try and take a different approach. I just started to, you know, it's okay, don't worry about it. You know, don't be nervous, we'll get it next time. Or thank you so much for all the care that you've given me and, you know, trying to really show them that gratitude. And the minute I took this approach, bro, it started doing, it started approaching this entire chapter of my life. This way, my whole world changed, and I'm not just talking about the cancer side of it, i'm talking about miracles showing up in my world, people that I haven't spoken to. I mean amazing stories, bro, of these people that just care and you can't unlock it until you get there. Right, i mean there may be other ways. I mean I don't, i don't need to be the one that says, oh, i've got it all figured out, but I'm definitely telling you that this, that I'm onto something and that this approach in daily life is something that I have taken to my world as best I can, and it shows.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, 100,. Man, that is an amazing, amazing approach, and I've always heard from somebody that told me and I learned this a while ago. They said whenever you feel depressed, whenever you feel down, something's wrong, something's on your mind or whatnot, or you just don't feel well or like something's going on. Look in the mirror and give three things that you're grateful for. Like, really look at yourself and just be grateful for the simplest things And it will change your day, it will change your mood, it'll change your mindset, your perspective, right there. And then it just changes how you approach everything, because you turn things around. And so when you told me that, that you're gonna approach it with love and that you're grateful, and that you're giving love back to them and telling them, hey, thank you for doing this, Don't worry about it, and all that, and showing that You can't lose brother.
Speaker 2:I wholeheartedly believe 100% that I was chosen to have this. You know that sounds crazy. My family doesn't like hearing me say that. But the bottom line is that I can do things a little differently. And if I can do things a little differently, maybe I can help somebody else do things a little differently and maybe somebody won't lose their dad, maybe somebody won't lose their mom You know what I mean. Maybe they won't lose their own life If they can approach this and just have a little bit of a different approach. I mean shit, it's worth giving it a shot, isn't it? 100.
Speaker 1:I've never heard that approach come from somebody Like you know what I'm saying From love. You know what I'm saying From gratitude? I was like when I heard you say that, i'm like holy shit, that's amazing.
Speaker 2:You said holy shit, he's off his rocker.
Speaker 1:Well, i already knew you were. I already knew you were. Yeah, right, that's true.
Speaker 2:I haven't known that for a long enough to know that for a fact No, but it's true, you know, and man and I carry a gratitude journal. I keep the gratitude journal I have since this whole thing started. I write them down. It asks me different things in there. I suggest getting one for people that are going through stuff like this, you know, because you can fall back on it.
Speaker 1:You know that was my next question is what do you recommend? I know everybody's different, right, everybody approaches things differently or whatnot, but cancer is cancer, meaning it's not right. That's what it is. But how you approach it is most important. And I know what works for you may not work for a good body, but what is your best advice? going through it right now and experiencing it. you know that you could offer somebody to say, hey man, look, this is what I'm going through And what's the best you know lesson that you could probably share with the body.
Speaker 2:Sure, and that's a great question too. I mean, you know, because everybody's experience is different. I'm currently working with a couple of different people right now that are going through this as well, and I'm trying to share with them, you know, the same process, the same thing that we're talking about here And I'm not. This isn't concrete. This isn't something that like take this and you'll feel better. This is try this hypothesis to see if it comes together for you, you know. Or just try it in your daily routine and see if it changes how your day turns out.
Speaker 2:Because that's affected me too, because I was blessed before all this went down and I was taking my kids to school every single day And I would make them tell me five things that they were grateful for every single morning on the way to school And they'd go. Ok, you know, they come on, dad, i don't. You know what I mean, you know. You mom, you know, but it still takes them out of themselves for a moment enough to be able to start thinking about some other people and to, you know, to start thinking about what they're grateful for.
Speaker 2:And you know it's just a different approach. You know it. There's a lot of different ways to go about it. There's a holistic way to try and beat this that you know. You go through holistic training and try and figure out a way to get through that, which is a lot of the gratitude-based process that we're talking about. But I just felt like this process was best for me because it was going to be compact enough that I could keep medical looks on it too and get through it as fast as I can, because I want to get back to my normal life man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then what is the thing that you fear the most? I mean, i know we all have a fear of something, which is great. I mean we have to be fearful, it keeps it sharp at certain times. But what you feared back then to what you fear now is a difference. It's the same or whatever.
Speaker 2:And if I could just go back for a second, because I don't think I gave you a complete answer on what you were saying about what will help other people, i think I got a little sidetracked. Ok, one thing that has been very beneficial to me is that my team, my family, my local group, has been very gracious in telling me always, whatever you feel, allow it to be, because there's a lot of turmoil that goes on in your own head. The chemo affects your mentally as well. So there's a lot going on, a lot of cloudiness, and so there's a lot of uncomfortable feelings that you're going to go through, where you're antsy, or you're uncomfortable in your own skin, or you go through that dark fog. The fog catches up with you and you can't shake it, and so I was taught early on that, no matter what I'm feeling, it's right to go with it and to pursue it, because until I'm in it, i can't get through it. If I'm just looking at it and I'm like, oh my god, the dark fog's all around me and I can't get through it, or that negative thinking, that's thinking, thinking's going on, it's hard to get out of it. Unless you're right there up in it. You can't do it from a distance, and so taking a look at those things and those feelings that come up, i think is very important and helpful in the recovery process. It can help you wake up and be a little bit easier on yourself during the day. The other thing I would suggest to people that are going through this is create a schedule. I cannot stress the value in a schedule throughout this process where you're up at a certain time, you're doing certain things at certain times, you're eating at certain times.
Speaker 2:My dad just went through this. He had breast cancer during COVID and he's a survivor now And he was also a big influence on helping me with my mindset, because he's a soldier, he's just a pilot, he's just a great person, and he beat it with mindset as well, having the right mindset, taking it to it, and I just know for a fact that when you take a look at it that way and you look at it and you're able to analyze things, you're not in denial, and when you're not in denial, you're in the solution. This is the way it goes. You asked me about things that I'm afraid of now, that I wasn't afraid of before Mortality. Mortality is a real thing for me now, and so everything is affected Me being a father, me being a husband, any of those things that come up in your past, that you want to work past, work through them, pick them up and get through them.
Speaker 2:I mean, put them behind you. Don't carry those blocks around in that backpack anymore. I ask myself a lot. Have I taught them enough? Have I taught my children enough? The answer is always going to be no.
Speaker 2:You will never say yes to that answer, so you might as well start overriding them now and start downloading stuff as fast as you can, and I only share that with you because the stuff that we have is valuable History, youth is valuable. We went through things and we can help people get through them easier. Thank God there's no cell phones from learning any evidence of the stuff that we went through and we went through it when we were growing up, but at least we have our memories that we can share with these kids to help them become better people and help us become better husbands and help us become better fathers, understanding that there isn't forever And I'm not saying that it's tomorrow, i'm not saying it's around the corner, but I am saying that I am very much aware of the vulnerability that we all share And that's something that we can all wrap our minds around is that that doesn't go away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think, the more that we realize that the mortality or that we're all going to pass at one point or another, is how we also embrace love and gratitude and living right now. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:There's so much to be said about right now living.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Put that phone down. I mean honestly, god. it's hard for me now because I see it, it's all. the kids are always wanting to do stuff, screaming, And I get it. I'm not trying to doubt that or judge them for what they're doing, but it takes away. I'd much rather get into a game of Django with my kids and watch them sit and scroll on.
Speaker 1:TikTok 100. Get all of them.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. That's when memories are created, that's when lessons are learned. That's all of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100%, 100. What does success mean to you? What did it mean back then, to be successful, and has that changed now? of what success, or the meaning of success, is to you now?
Speaker 2:Yeah, back then, success. I'm a hustler, i hustle, i hustle for my business. Everywhere I go, i always have Same with sports, and so success to me at one point in my life when I was younger was the cars, the houses, the vacations, the trips, everything, all of it. You know what I mean. It was all that, that was all that was important. Now things are important to me and my children, my wife, my family. I can't tell you how small my circle has gotten through this process, and it's not as if I'm like shying people off. It's just that people are living their lives. People are living their lives and doing their thing, and so I have recognized that family is the most important thing to me and that my circle of friends, people that do things like this, that care, those people have a place with me forever, and so the things that used to be important are no longer important.
Speaker 2:And then the big house, the big house, the 4,000 square foot house that you can't even clean because it's so damn big, isn't important to me anymore, like it used to be. Now the little things are important Time spent with families, meals, trips, that we get to go on, that we can spend time together and be a family Those things are important.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so crazy how success the work success to me has changed also. And to me it's the small wins, the overcoming adversity That success to me. Any little thing being better, watching my daughter's growth That success to me.
Speaker 2:Being able to take the time to enjoy that, though. That's the maturity that comes into play. Yeah, being present, being able to put down the daily routine, to be able to enjoy the moments that you get to share, doing whatever the small stuff And being able to know this isn't important to me. Now, know this. I mean we talk a lot, we talk a joke around about schedules and stuff like that, because I know how important it is to you too, as an athlete and as a trainer and a mentor. But having that set time to be able to work on oneself and having that time to be able to work on one's family and having the time to be able to work on one's career and having them be separate, not all together, is when things get really special and when you're able to really isolate the time and think clearer. Charity is important in life 100.
Speaker 1:Do you have like a daily mantra or like a quote you lived by, or any morals and values that are like no, whatever's around that? No, this is who I am, this is our core, or anything that you lived by?
Speaker 2:You know, i don't have any quick clever line or anything like that I wish I did.
Speaker 1:I should find one.
Speaker 2:I should find one, you know I should find one, but I think that you know the big thing for me is that I've learned that I'm going to be as happy, as successful and as living in the right spiritual realm as I allow myself to be right. So every day I'm up working on myself. I have periods of time that I do. I visualize, like we talked about. You know, i have my morning routines, my exercise routines, i have my evening routines. It's all part of a process.
Speaker 2:You know I had to build it to be because, look, i recognize something pretty early on in this business, in my business and in my sporting career, and all of that. I only got so much in me, i don't know. My battery is only so good as it's gonna be and it's gotten. It's not as strong as it used to be either, right, but my battery is what it is. And so I recognize that come mid-morning my battery gets a little low because I work on myself in the morning. So I need to fill me up, right. So I'm out looking for some Tony Robbins or some you know, or some some of you, some of your stuff that you're doing positivity right.
Speaker 2:But I'm looking for something to fill me up and get me back to my full potential, to where I need to be, and I pay very close attention to my energy levels. And so, with that being said, i think that know thyself and be aware of you, know and be aware that you're only gonna be as happy as you allow yourself to be. you know, and stop being so hard on yourselves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, once again we come back to self-evaluation, self-awareness, daily intakes right Of where you're at and then switching that around when it's not that good of the perspective that we're at. And that's so important. I mean, we keep coming back to that of how important it is in life in general And especially now that you're going to fight, it's gotta be everything.
Speaker 2:I mean, it really is a self-evaluation of where I stand and where I'm going should be asked every single morning, every day. What are we trying to accomplish today? What are we gonna goal? What are our goals?
Speaker 1:I think the biggest, the word that sticks in my mind about who you are of like. when I think of the word, i'm like that's Travis, that's it, and so I'm gonna give it to you now, right? So once you don't have a daily mantra or a sentence, so you know what comes to mind is together.
Speaker 2:I love it.
Speaker 1:I just because, look, you're going through it right now with your family together, not only your family, your mentors, the people around you, your small circle. And that word to me, when I went to go see you guys play, has always been there in my mind And I look at that team and I go. They did it together And right now, as you're going through this battle, you're doing it together And I'm with you, brother, i'm with you.
Speaker 2:I appreciate it. see, I really do. man, It's special to be connected with you and your family. I care about you guys just like family, And if there's ever anything you need, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Of course, brother, anytime, likewise. likewise. I got a couple more questions here And then we're gonna wrap it up in regards to how you want to leave any advice or anything with the people and then how they can reach out to you. But what do you think? you know there's change all around us at all time. That's just inevitable, right From going to different schools and change growing up or whatnot. But what do you think is the biggest catapult for change? What do you think is that thing that goes? holy shit. this is how what transcend in my life to be a different person and to be family. Yes, Failure yeah.
Speaker 2:I was failing for a long time at doing something I wanted to be good at, and that was sales. And so I mean I was working two, three jobs just to keep to make ends meet while I was training and learning and trying to become better at my craft, and I have failed more times than I have succeeded. But, to be honest with you, it's not just the fact of failure that is my biggest surge of development, i guess is what I would say right, that's what? but getting back up failing and getting back up and understanding that I get better when I fail, that's something that I don't know if people can get through their heads.
Speaker 1:Is that you've got to fail to succeed.
Speaker 2:I mean, if people don't get it, they're so soft on themselves that just a couple of doubts and they're turning around. I want to be the one that yells to them keep going, keep going. You don't have to be done with this, you can get there. Because I truly believe nine-tenths of everything in this world is an understanding of how it develops right. So if you know how something works, you can figure it out.
Speaker 2:Real estate I'm gonna tell you right now anybody that's listening to this that wants to learn how to sell real estate, it's doable, it's a trainable process. I can teach you how to start, how to get good and how to be good for a long time, and it's just a process, right. But once you recognize that everything is a process, then you fail, you stumble, you pick yourself back up and get back in the book and follow what you need to be following and get in that directional that you need to be getting into again to get back on the right track. But I mean all through my career, everything sports wise, i failed. I can remember I used to have, i used to. I had such a chip on my shoulder when I was in high school. I wrote on the bill of my cap fuck the non-believers.
Speaker 2:Yeah it was in my baseball cap when I was in high school because there were so many people that doubted me in the things that I was gonna do, and so you know I don't know.
Speaker 1:Now I mean that's perfect. That is an amazing advice in regards to. it is as long as you learn from your failure, right, you get back up and you learn, cause if you keep doing the same bullshit, you're gonna continue to fail and never learn, never get better.
Speaker 2:So you can't learn from that. It's like running. You're a runner. Yeah, You ever stop when you're running. Anymore.
Speaker 1:Only when I eat.
Speaker 2:Only when you eat. But how about before? when you first got started doing it, did you stop all the time? Yeah, yeah, right, my feet hurt and I got cramps my back hurts. It's too hot. My nipples are bleeding.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly They do, i know, that's why I said it.
Speaker 2:But yeah, you had to fail to get to where you are. Yeah, and that's world-class athlete. You know, and that's what it's all about, and that's how you get better is you allow yourself to fail?
Speaker 1:Oh man, i've enjoyed this conversation, this dialogue, this advice, this experience that you've given to this podcast, to the people that are gonna listen to this site. I appreciate you so much, brother. What is one of the last things that you wanna leave this, the audience, with? you know anything that you wanna say, that you wanna give them a piece of advice or whatnot?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I think the one thing that I would like to leave the audience with is the understanding that anything is really possible with the right mindset and with the right self-evaluation, like we're talking about. being honest with yourself, I really don't feel like there's many things that can't be accomplished in our lives without that circle of friendship, circle of trust, mindset and having the right approach to the challenges that you face in your life, Because you can take yourself out really easy if you just allow yourself to think that it's not gonna happen or that it's impossible to occur, especially like what we're dealing with right now, like with what I'm going through. If I didn't have the right mindset, this whole house would come down, and I'm not gonna let that happen. And so my biggest thing was when I first got diagnosed, was how is everyone else gonna handle it, You know? and so I had to make sure that I handled it the right way for myself so that they didn't learn from me. So it's about leading by example.
Speaker 1:Oh, 100. I have another question. You were talking about a little bit about the mentorships and the group that's around you and people that you look up to and you talk to that get you through it. Some people don't have that support either from their family. How do they reach out to a group that might be there for them that they don't have family or friends that are like that or people that support them? So is there like a network or somewhere that they can go and kind of reach out to?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you reach out to me if you want. I can help you guys find your place. A lot of good groups that I work with, a lot of round tables on a lot of different things that I really believe in that I can share with people. You know, i don't ever wanna be like. This is the way it works, because it always comes down to this is the way it worked for me, you know, and so I share that experience, strength and hope with as many people as I possibly can and hope that they pick up on it and that they run with it too, you know.
Speaker 1:Mm, beautiful. How do they reach? I know we didn't talk a lot about your investment business real estate investment, buy, sell anything but tell people how they can get ahold of you for either mentorship network reaching out helping them find something, or your real estate business. So Coaching.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i do a lot of coaching in real estate as well, but whatever the case may be, you can reach out to me any way you want. You reach out to me on social media. It's just my name, first and last, travis Arsenault, with the number 12 behind it. You can find me. Cesar and I are friends. You'll be able to find us at your C. You can also call me on my cell phone or shoot me a text. My cell phone number is 909-996-7999 and you can reach me anytime.
Speaker 1:Oh man, that's so awesome brother. Thank you so much, man. I can't thank you enough for coming on this platform and sharing your experience, what you're going through, being so open about it, and I'm sure that you're helping a lot of people and I hope, those people that need help or somebody around them or are looking for an avenue that they reach out either to myself at UAG Fit or can't be broken 2022 on Instagram or Facebook or your social media and your platform.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and you know what I need to say. That again, your information, your training information.
Speaker 1:Yeah, mine's just UAG.
Speaker 2:Fit. UAG Fit so that's where they can go to find the best trainer that they can find.
Speaker 1:And they can find somebody who's going to give them the best at the end of the day.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. that's what it's all about. Yeah, You gotta give it to them real.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I'm not. don't come over here if you're not coming prepared for the truth.
Speaker 2:Don't be. Don't be bringing the truth out, Doesn't mean.
Speaker 1:I'm right. It just means what I see, and maybe you haven't seen it. I don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 2:No, you're right. You're not absolutely right. Don't doubt yourself at all.
Speaker 1:I appreciate you, brother. Hey man, I love you. Much love and respect to you and your family. Thank you And once again, I appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule and what you're going through. I know you're going through cancer and one of the treatments right now. I appreciate you And do you need anything you'd let me know.
Speaker 2:I will, brianna. Thank you so much for this opportunity. I really look forward to hearing it. I'm grateful for you and your family in our lives. I really am. You've made us better people.
Speaker 1:Thank you, brother. Now everybody listening. I really appreciate you guys. Thank you for listening. Continue to give me feedback and remember you can't be broken. I appreciate you guys.